TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2025-26

LadyGagaWithATC

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Sep 1, 2025
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After reading about A&OS' grades requirements, I was wondering if my high variance in grades will effect my applications? I averaged a 2:1, but I achieved it through getting both high firsts and 2:2s (mainly 2:1s, but the variation does exist).

Will this pattern of grades automatically disqualify me from a lot of firms who put a hard limit on no grades lower than 2:1 in a module?
Hi @Linus!

Firstly, congratulations on obtaining a 2:1 degree!

According to A&O Shearman's website, the following is their academic benchmark:

"Our academic requirements are AAB (136 UCAS points) or equivalent at A-Level and on track for/achieved a 2:1 undergraduate degree. We also require 7 GCSEs at grade 6 or above (including Maths and English). We do take into account mitigating circumstances."

I understand your worry; I am aware that some firms, in reality, look for 2:1s across all modules. However, in my experience, these firms are rare, and often they will make this clear by stating that they are looking (for example) for a "consistent" 2:1. In any case, having also received First Class marks will be a factor in your favour!

Based on this information, I would definitely apply to A&O Shearman if they are a firm you are interested in!

With other firms, I would similarly check the application requirements section on their websites. However, keep in mind that (a) you are eligible for a majority of firms; and (b) if in doubt, you can always email their Graduate Recruitment Team to ask whether having individual 2:2s will disadvantage you.

Best of luck!
 

abbietc03

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Dec 13, 2022
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Does anyone know if firms dislike it if you apply to their vac scheme without attending an open day? I want to apply for the Paul, Weiss winter vac scheme but I haven't been to any of their open days and as they are competitive, am unsure if I will gain a place before I apply. Any advice appreciated!!
Hey! I don't think it is necessary to attend an open day, so I'd absolutely still apply!

For context, I applied for the Paul, Weiss vac scheme last cycle, and I got invited to the final stage interview without attending an open day at the firm. I also completed 3 vacation schemes and got a TC through a DTC application, and I only attended an open day at one of the VS firms.

It is, of course, an advantage to attend open days if you can, as it can help you write a stronger application with stronger motivations, but it's definitely not essential :)

(p.s. happy to chat through your PW application if needed, just give me a shout!)
 

LadyGagaWithATC

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Sep 1, 2025
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Does anyone know if firms dislike it if you apply to their vac scheme without attending an open day? I want to apply for the Paul, Weiss winter vac scheme but I haven't been to any of their open days and as they are competitive, am unsure if I will gain a place before I apply. Any advice appreciated!!
Hi @whywhy88!

No, you generally do not need to have attended an Open Day at a firm you are applying to in order to be successful. Open Days are very useful for candidates to get to know both the unique selling points of the firm they are attending an Open Day at, and gain an insight into life as a trainee solicitor and as a commercial lawyer in general. However, they are not necessary, and no firm will disadvantage you in their application process for not having attended (or indeed applied for) an Open Day with them!

I would advise you to make sure that you can clearly articulate why you want to work at the firm, here Paul, Weiss. There are many resources you can rely on to understand a firm, such as virtual law fairs, TCLA, Chambers Student, and Legal Cheek! It is also very useful to read the practice area entries of the firm on Legal 500.

I also found it useful to message current trainees on LinkedIn with any specific questions that I may have about the firm that only someone who is working there may know.

Best of luck!
 
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vera.mekhonoshina

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Sep 7, 2023
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Does anyone know if firms dislike it if you apply to their vac scheme without attending an open day? I want to apply for the Paul, Weiss winter vac scheme but I haven't been to any of their open days and as they are competitive, am unsure if I will gain a place before I apply. Any advice appreciated!!
Hi @whywhy88,

This is a very good question!

Having reviewed 200+ applications during my time at TCLA, I believe that, in terms of usefulness for applications, an Open Day is only as good as the reflections that you draw from it. Let me explain:

Imagine two applicants.

Applicant 1 has attended an Open Day with [X law firm]. They didn't take any notes, asked generic questions to future trainees and associates, and the only way they used their Open Day experience in the application was by simply stating that they attended it.

Applicant 2 did not attend any Open Days with [X law firm], as it was impossible for them to travel to London. However, they kept track of the firm's thought leadership, such as articles, reports, and interviews; spoke with future and current trainees, asking them specific questions about the law firm based on previous in-depth research; and worked on making really convincing, detailed connections between the aspects of the firm and their own academic and work experiences to justify their interest in the firm and create strong arguments.

In my experience, Applicant 2 will write a much more convincing and impactful application without attending the Open Day than Applicant 1.

It also means that it is definitely possible to write a strong application that will go through to the next stage of a law firm's process without attending an Open Day - I was able to do that with at least three or four firms when I was applying.

The main benefit of attending an Open Day is discovering more nuanced and detailed information about the law firm that you would not be able to get by, say, glossing over the firm's website. However, you can achieve this depth by other means, too. Here are some of my suggestions:

1. Follow the firm's partners and associates on LinkedIn. Partners often go into a greater degree of detail when announcing a deal or speaking about a case online - this is one of the best ways to refine your knowledge of the firm's deals!
2. Read the firms' annual industry reports, track new hires and partnerships. This will give you a better idea of the firm's strategy moving forward. What sectors is the firm hiring in? How does this relate to global commercial and financial news?
3. Interact with the firm's current trainees and associates by asking brief, specific questions - each of your questions should serve a purpose on your application.
4. Contextualise your research. It's very easy to spread yourself too thin and spend hours researching unnecessary firm information that you won't even use on your application. To avoid this, you need to first ask yourself - what exact question am I trying to find the answer to?

I hope this helps!
 
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noahsmiit01

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Dec 9, 2024
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Gibsons Vac Scheme opened today, the deadline is on 16th January, but their Open Day is on 4th December. However, the Vac Scheme is on a rolling basis, so I wonder why they would hold their Open Day so late. Surely, by then, most of their Vac Scheme places are gonna be gone....Likewise, Wilkie and Latham are smart enough to have their Open Days next month, given the fact that the Vac Scheme deadline is in December, and it's on a Non-Rolling basis as well🤦‍♂️
 
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Jessica Pearson

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Jan 25, 2024
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I am currently drafting my HSF Kramer application and I need help with approaching the first question.
Introduce us to a topic you know about and explain why it interests you.
We are looking for structure and succinctness in your answer. Your answer does not need to be related to law or Herbert Smith Freehills Kramer and it is a chance for us to find out more about you and your interests. (Max 300 words)

Does anyone have any advice on how to approach, answer, and structure this question?
 

billyonthespeeddial

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Jan 21, 2023
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I am currently drafting my HSF Kramer application and I need help with approaching the first question.
Introduce us to a topic you know about and explain why it interests you.
We are looking for structure and succinctness in your answer. Your answer does not need to be related to law or Herbert Smith Freehills Kramer and it is a chance for us to find out more about you and your interests. (Max 300 words)

Does anyone have any advice on how to approach, answer, and structure this question?
Find a topic that you genuinely find interesting. It actually doesn't matter what it is, they're not lying!

Don't try to impress with the complexity of your topic.

Have two paragraphs, one should cover "introduce us to a topic you know about". Second should cover "why it interests you". According to grad rec team themselves, so many candidates completely miss that it's a two part question.

Use simple and clear sentences. Each grad rec member is reading hundreds of applications. You want them to really understand what you're saying despite this.

It'd be good, however, if you knew more about this topic than the average person/lawyer. When reading your first paragraph, the grad rec member should probably be learning something new.
 
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dannyp123

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Oct 20, 2024
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Hi everyone, I’m trying to refine how I demonstrate genuine interest in a practice area when writing applications. My usual approach is to pick a specific practice area I’m interested in and highlight how the firm has added value to clients through its advice. However, I’m unsure whether there should also be a personal link to the area—something about why it appeals to me personally—and if so, how to express that effectively. Do you have tips or examples of how to combine a firm-focused angle with a personal connection in a way that feels genuine rather than forced?
 

billyonthespeeddial

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Jan 21, 2023
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Hi everyone, I’m trying to refine how I demonstrate genuine interest in a practice area when writing applications. My usual approach is to pick a specific practice area I’m interested in and highlight how the firm has added value to clients through its advice. However, I’m unsure whether there should also be a personal link to the area—something about why it appeals to me personally—and if so, how to express that effectively. Do you have tips or examples of how to combine a firm-focused angle with a personal connection in a way that feels genuine rather than forced?
Yes, the personal link is the most important part!

I've DMed you with an example from one of my successful applications
 

lawstudent2

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Dec 9, 2024
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Heyy guys. haven’t got a question at the moment, but just wanted to raise attention about something. i got an email from Jaysen titled ‘why are you applying to this firm’, and through using the fake firm ‘Slaughter & Allan LLP’, he so amazingly depicts what makes a decent application stand out from the amazing ones that actually get selected.

Just telling you all, do have a read of it, it is eye-opening (definitely was for me).


Thanks for the help Jaysen!! Been loving all these insightful TCLA emails. Super useful and clear-cut.
Just wondering if anyone knows how to access this email as despite me being a premium member I haven't received this and it sounds interesting
 
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lawyersum

Legendary Member
Jun 28, 2024
198
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Good evening everyone. Does anybody have any advice on how to genuinely make a personal connection with facts about the firm and yourself? I find that I can get loads of stats and info about a firm, but it ends up reading like a shopping list in my answer. For example, with energy deals (I’m very interested in the sector), I usually make the connection with a firm’s excellence in a particular area to my heritage (APAC/ South Asia) and being interested in that region. But with more ‘drier’ deals or facts such as PE, real estate, M&A I struggle to find a meaningful personal connection beyond ‘I did a Forage programme on it’. Would be grateful for any tips :)
 

billyonthespeeddial

Legendary Member
Gold Member
Premium Member
Jan 21, 2023
259
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Good evening everyone. Does anybody have any advice on how to genuinely make a personal connection with facts about the firm and yourself? I find that I can get loads of stats and info about a firm, but it ends up reading like a shopping list in my answer. For example, with energy deals (I’m very interested in the sector), I usually make the connection with a firm’s excellence in a particular area to my heritage (APAC/ South Asia) and being interested in that region. But with more ‘drier’ deals or facts such as PE, real estate, M&A I struggle to find a meaningful personal connection beyond ‘I did a Forage programme on it’. Would be grateful for any tips :)
Forage programmes are perfectly fine to mention, I did this in several successful apps! But also identify what precisely stood out about the practice area for you. For example, don't just say something like it was intellectually engaging or high-profile. Those things can be found in basically any area. What really distinguishes PE? Perhaps the sophisticated clients seeking strategic investments, or fast-paced deals. And then say why are *you* as an individual suited for such an area? And why is the way this firm does that best suited to you?
 

Moo&mak

Active Member
Feb 27, 2024
10
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Hey, has anyone had a look at the Pinsent Masons application form yet? They just opened today and it looks like there is no section for long written answers (Why Commercial Law/PM? style). The form only has sections for academic history and relevant experiences and after that it goes straight to the blended assessment (case study, SJT, and VI). Did they remove the written application element this year or am I missing something?
Based on my knowledge and past experience Pinsent masons does not have application questions.
 

lawyersum

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Jun 28, 2024
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Forage programmes are perfectly fine to mention, I did this in several successful apps! But also identify what precisely stood out about the practice area for you. For example, don't just say something like it was intellectually engaging or high-profile. Those things can be found in basically any area. What really distinguishes PE? Perhaps the sophisticated clients seeking strategic investments, or fast-paced deals. And then say why are *you* as an individual suited for such an area? And why is the way this firm does that best suited to you?
Thanks so much for the clarification :)
 

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