Yeah I'm doing so rn, is your issue with Cappfinnity in general or also with HL?Same here. I would advise emailing grad rec in case any timed portions of the test were triggered.
Yeah I'm doing so rn, is your issue with Cappfinnity in general or also with HL?Same here. I would advise emailing grad rec in case any timed portions of the test were triggered.
Yeah mine does the exact same thing lol, I did FF but this is just with HL
fwiw it was just standard VI stuff - three predictable/conventional VI type questions.Hi all, for those who have completed the Hogan Lovells Job Simulation test, I was just wondering whether you wouldn't mind sharing whether the questions were more focused on the situations themselves in the test (i.e., how you would respond in different scenarios), or could be related more to your personal motivation, skills, and competencies? Prepping for possible questions such as Why the firm, why commercial law would take up so much more time. Thank you so much!
Seems like an AWS issue again as AllHires and Capp is down. I'm thinking of emailing Grad Rec about it but office hours are over too.Is W&C's application portal not working for anyone else? I need to do the vi tomorrow and idk if I should message grad recruitment or wait until tomorrow morning?
Depends on whether the word count is for work experience section or long-form question. For the work experience section, 180 words is definitely fine (I have progressed with many firms even with around just 100 words for WE section when the word limit was 250). But for long answer question, I would definitely try to get as close to 250 words as possible. I would say 240 words should be the lower limit if the max is 250 for a long answer question.Is 180 words/250 too little for an application that says max is 250 words
I just emailed, worst case they see it first thing in the morningSeems like an AWS issue again as AllHires and Capp is down. I'm thinking of emailing Grad Rec about it but office hours are over too.
I just realised! I wanted to fill out my application on all-hires and it can't be loaded. Hopefully it will be back to normal ASAP as the deadline is Friday 31st October.Seems like an AWS issue again as AllHires and Capp is down. I'm thinking of emailing Grad Rec about it but office hours are over too.
Ya MS Azure and AWS are both down and Grad Rec for all firms is going to be out of office now. I think I'll have to the VI tomorrow morning.I just emailed, worst case they see it first thing in the morning
Hmm thanks. I took 40 minutes hope time is not taken into account when sending my pfoI would say max 30
Thank you and hopefully there is a firm that offers me the chance to achieve my dream (Becoming the next best closer).Love your username🤣
Grad recruitment just replied to me saying they're looking into it and will be in touch with an updateYa MS Azure and AWS are both down and Grad Rec for all firms is going to be out of office now. I think I'll have to the VI tomorrow morning.
Definitely send them an email, preferably even tonight, to say that the system was down when attempting to do the test. This shows that you were affected by the technical glitch and that you should be considered for any extensions they hand out. IMOAnybody have any advice on what to do my W&C VI is due tomorrow was intending on doing it tonight but the portals obviously down
Hello!any advice on Dechert written exercise would be greatly appreciated!
Hello!
Congratulations on receiving the written exercise invite! Whilst I am not too sure on the specifics of the Dechert exercise, I've outlined some advice below that I gave a little while ago in relation to preparing for written exercises.
- Practice timed writing - pick a 30-45 minute slot, read a short business or news article, and summarise the key points in a structured 1-2 page memo with a clear conclusion summarising your findings.
- Work on prioritisation - pick an article with a lot of information, and practice picking out the 3-4 most important issues rather than trying to summarise and include everything.
- Use a clear structure - this was the main thing that I implemented that helped me score higher on written assessments! Follow a clear structure in your answer, and practice what this would be for each type of document. For example, you might be asked to write an email to a client, a letter, a memo, or a report. Have a look at what the structure of each of these should be, and have a go drafting a couple to get used to it in advance.
- Check clarity - after writing (potentially one of the above), ask yourself if someone with no context to the facts could follow along with the information and your reasoning.
- Proofread under pressure - I would get used to quickly checking grammar and flow, as this is really important in a written exercise! I sometimes struggled with this, as the pressure made me skip parts of my writing, but I found that literally following along with a pen or your finger can make sure you don't miss anything.
- Review sample case studies - I would have a look online and see if there are any free resources that you can have a go at. A true lifesaver during my last cycle was this forum post by Jacob Miller, and I would definitely give it a read!
I'd focus on condensing large chunks of information into clear, concise summaries, and then presenting these within a straightforward structure that flows logically and leads to a well-reasoned conclusion.
I hope that helps, and best of luck with the written exercise - we'll all be rooting for you! 🎉
Of course, no problem at all!!
Since client emails are such a common format in written exercises, it's definitely worth getting comfortable with how to approach them! A few things that I kept in mind when preparing:
Understand the Purpose and Audience
Before you start writing, clarify who you are writing to (e.g. a client, supervisor, or a colleague) and what information they need from you. The tone, level of formality, and structure will vary depending on whether it's an internal email or an email to an external client.
For example, if you are emailing a client, you want to ensure that they are able to understand any legal principles that you are outlining in your email. As such, it's important to make sure you write it in layman's terms and don't just recite the information given in the materials. However, if you are emailing a supervisor, I would focus on highlighting the most important pieces of information as you are effectively trying to save them time in going through the materials themselves. I would always aim to write in a professional way, and frame it like you would an actual email - such as a subject line and a closing sentence.
Use a Clear and Logical Structure
The main thing that I changed when approaching written exercises was making sure that I had a clear and logical structure. A good client email should be easy to follow. A simple structure could look like:
- Opening: A brief, polite greeting and context for why you're writing (and what you'll be discussing in the email). If you're emailing a supervisor, it might be useful to include a short summary of your findings at the top (i.e. an early conclusion), and then go into more detail below.
- Main Body: Summarise the key points or advice clearly and concisely, using short paragraphs. It might be appropriate to use headings and subtitles, especially if there is a lot of information. The goal is to make sure that the client can follow along, and that it isn't just a massive wall of text that is difficult to read.
- Closing: End with next steps, an offer of assistance, or a polite sign-off (e.g. "Please let me know if you'd like to discuss further"). These elements distinguish an email exercise from a general report or memo, and shows that you are following the brief exactly! If you are emailing a supervisor, I would try to show some proactivity in the closing parts - such as offering to write a first draft of a document or client email.
Keep your tone professional and approachable
I would aim for clear, confident language without being overly formal (but still professional). This can be tricky, but phrases such as "I'd recommend..." or "It may be helpful..." strike a nice balance. Avoid overly technical language or long-winded phrasing - simplicity often conveys professionalism! As stated above, I would definitely avoid legal jargon if you are writing to a client, unless you are certain that a client would understand it.
Also remember that tone can shift slightly depending on the client's relationship with the firm. If you are told this information, a longstanding client might suit a warmer tone, whilst a first-time contact may call for a more formal approach. However, if in doubt, I would always go for a more formal approach - especially in a professional context!
Be precise and client-focused
Remember the purpose for why you are actually writing to the client, and tailor your response to the client's actual issue. I would avoid copying large chunks of background information from the brief (as the client will already have this information!) - instead, demonstrate understanding of their issue by reframing the key points in your own words and applying them directly to the client's situation. Make sure to keep your advice practical - clients care more about what they should do next than about the legal theory behind it. You might find it useful to use signposting phrases such as "In summary..." or "Based on the information provided..." to make your reasoning easy to follow. If there are uncertainties, I would make sure to address them but be reassuring - e.g. "Further details would be needed to confirm this position, but at this stage...".
Check for clarity and tone at the end
Before your time runs out, take a moment to review your email. I always found it helpful to read it aloud (if possible) or follow along with my finger - this helps you catch sentences that are too long, unclear, or sound abrupt. Look for opportunities to simplify, and if a sentence takes more than one breath to read, it's probably too long! Make sure your sign-off fits the context (things such as "Kind regards" or "Best wishes" usually work best). The graduate recruitment team / assessors will be looking for professionalism in formatting and presentation - consistent spacing, clear paragraphing, and correct spelling and grammar will all make a strong impression.
As a practical tip to practice: You could start by taking short case studies and draft sample emails that summarise your advice in 200-300 words. This helps you get used to organising your thoughts quickly and writing in a professional, accessible way.
I hope that helps!
Hey!Hi, this is a question for @Abbie Whitlock and @Andrei Radu. How do you approach a cover letter for a firm that doesn't include a separate written answer to detail the "why law, why us, why you" answer? A page seems too limited to be able to exemplify every point i.e. if I say I'm interested in the firm's work on xyz, if I then go on to give an example of a case and why it's interesting, that's half a page already gone. Similar issue with talking about skills that I bring to the job if I use a fully developed STAR approach to my answers.
So any advice or suggestions would be a great help!