It has SJT + 2 WEHey guys do we know if the first stage milbank assessment is selective and includes any VI/motivational questions?
Loool, why is this giving "who are you" by the Kazoo kid? Not rude at all, we love a concerned citizen. I'm a future trainee at Travers Smith just hopping back on here for a while to see if I can help anyone out.
Not a daft question at all - it’s something a lot of people worry about quietly, so I'm sure there will be many people glad that you’ve raised it here.Really rogue question, but when you start the PGDL or SQE, how do people afford to live in London? I’m coming from Leeds and having to move down with my partner and for the life of us cannot see how we will manage it. Those who’ve done the SQE or going to, how do you make it work? Most firms I’m looking at give a 10-15k bursary but I’ve no idea how to make that work :/
- sorry if this is a really daft question, but I’ve tried to do some research and thought maybe this could be a good place to discuss since we will all (or majority) need to move down to London at some point?
Hey! Nice to see non-law faces here! This is a great question, and oftentimes I think candidates overestimate how much they need to use their degree as leverage in their applications so I wouldn't shoehorn a link in if it's proving difficult.Hi, I have a politics background as well, I would love to know how you would suggest leveraging studying politics for a tc app! it’s something i struggle with, thanks in advance!
TS is a firm I’m thinking to apply to!
The application this year is just a cover letter- would I be able to PM to get more insight on how to write
Hello! Future trainee at Ashurst here.Have people progressed with firms to interview before and then re-applied and got rejected at app stage? So annoying
is the grant from firms given to cover tution costs or living costs? Or do they pay for your PGDL/SQE fees ontop of providing a living grantNot a daft question at all - it’s something a lot of people worry about quietly, so I'm sure there will be many people glad that you’ve raised it here.
The honest answer is that most people don’t make it work through a single source of funding. It’s usually a combination of things. The bursary many firms offer is intended to contribute rather than fully cover London living costs, and people tend to top this up in a few common ways:
From my experience, very few people find the finances comfortable. It’s often tight but it is doable with planning and by being realistic about lifestyle for that period. Some firms may offer additional support for future trainees such as interest-free loans that are deducted from your eventual first pay cheque, so these things are worth checking.
- Savings or family support, where that’s possible
- Part-time work alongside the PGDL or SQE (this is very common, especially on the SQE)
- Living arrangements that reduce costs - house shares, living slightly further out and commuting or (where people are lucky enough) living at home still.
The majority of people that worked alongside the PGDL/SQE that I know of were providing academic assistance in some way. So checking/editing CVs and personal statements or tutoring (school, university and masters students). This can be done in person in London but also online; it's certainly manageable alongside the courses.
You’re absolutely right that this is something most people here will face at some point, and you’re not alone in feeling anxious about it. Hopefully, you'll have a good amount of time now to plan for moving to London rather than panic later on.
Hope that helps - happy to talk through options or hear what others have done as well.
The majority of firms to my knowledge will pay for your PGDL/SQE fees on top of providing a living grantis the grant from firms given to cover tution costs or living costs? Or do they pay for your PGDL/SQE fees ontop of providing a living grant
Do you have to physically stay in London while studying for the SQE? Can you not do it online if you are an international student?The majority of firms to my knowledge will pay for your PGDL/SQE fees on top of providing a living grant
In many cases, the breakdown of financial assistance would look as follows:is the grant from firms given to cover tution costs or living costs? Or do they pay for your PGDL/SQE fees ontop of providing a living grant
thank you!!Hey! Nice to see non-law faces here! This is a great question, and oftentimes I think candidates overestimate how much they need to use their degree as leverage in their applications so I wouldn't shoehorn a link in if it's proving difficult.
That said, studying a non-law degree does make your application slightly more unique. The way I would go about it is thinking about what similarities there are between law and politics, and I think there's two ways.
Commercial law and politics are of course intertwined, politics creates legislation, politics affects the economy, markets etc. You can use this to explain both your interest in law, but also to demonstrate your commercial and political awareness and how this would benefit you as a trainee.
Alternatively, you could focus more on the hard skills gained. Politics teaches you research skills, written skills and how to construct an argument. These are all skills that you would use in law. I hope that helps!
It really depends on the firm but to the best of my knowledge, most firms will require you to move to London even if you are an international student.Do you have to physically stay in London while studying for the SQE? Can you not do it online if you are an international student?
I would just get it done as soon as you can, especially since it's a pretty easy and straightforward application?sorry if people have already asked this, but does anyone know what time Mishcon's application is due? like would it be safe to submit it any time before 23:59 tomorrow night? thank you so much, and sorry to ask!!