Not me deciding that I don't feel sufficiently excited about Akin's work to write 6 answers 
Not me deciding that I don't feel sufficiently excited about Akin's work to write 6 answers![]()
Didn't apply as I am ineligible, but I did apply for McDermott and see the same word count for 6 number of questions too.Not me deciding that I don't feel sufficiently excited about Akin's work to write 6 answers![]()
IMO I don't like bot if they only share something that copy paste LLM and lack of EI which can't imitate trait human has. I do prefer bot that can detect people being mean, jerked, spammed, fraud, discriminate, racist, etc then flag or warn them immediately before eventually kicked out. That's needed in this forum. What do you guys think?I do think this thread was just a testing ground for potential TCLA mods as some have pointed out. I confess that halfway through this afternoon that whilst I didn't think they were bots, I did start thinking "why are there so many people typing in a very similar tone to how Andrei normally types when explaining something" 😅
Also ended up spending the day not really looking at any more apps, kinda just needed the break after this morning's disappointment lol, just gonna revisit my approach again and consider that Skadden was essentially one of my first few applications this cycle, so probably wasn't the absolute best I could've done
The Christmas period is so challenging to navigate whilst doing applications - don't worry, you're not the only person who will feel like they're losing their mind!! What worked really well for me was actually leaning into the silence. I'm so used to being on edge all day and anxiously refreshing my emails throughout, but because I knew everyone else was on a break, I was able to give my mind a break as well. I know it is easier said than done but (assuming you're done with your applications) this is your opportunity to rest!!! You have done all you can for now, the best thing you can do is enjoy your time with your family and friends, sleep well, eat well and prepare yourself mentally and physically for a slurry of congratulations emails and next stage assessments! Good luckAny tips on how not to lose my mind over christmas knowing firms are going to be telling anyone anything until Jan🫠
Welcome new forum members 👀 - can we at least get some lovely introductions, if poss, so we can better direct our queries?
Interesting... Then app questions weren't a particularly high decisive factor, I reckon? I am a coach for one competition, and whenever we assemble a new team, I put their motivational answers into an AI detector before making a final decision. If it's 20%, then I let it go, of course, but if it's 80-90%...App it was evident that most applicant used ChatGPT to aid them during the app process which clearly became evident on the scheme
This is what I got from a friend who successfully got a TC last year on that scheme
I think a good way to answer this question is to focus on the qualities that help you keep learning in any role, like curiosity, self-reflection, and initiative.Does anyone have any advice on how to properly tackle a question asking: ‘how would you ensure you are continuously learning and developing in the role of a trainee associate’? Any help would be appreciated frfr!
Hey! I did ES's video interview last year and you're right it is strengths-based. The firm really focuses on your motivations in specific scenarios and what qualities you're naturally drawn to expressing. Expect mainly questions about an experience you have and how that shows your affinity for a specific strength. The firm also likes if you mention what energised you about the overall situation. Focus on preparing these competency examples instead of preparing the typical why law, why firm!ES video interview - any tips or insights from anyone who has done it before? I am absolutely terrible at video interviews and want to be as prepared as possible😭 I know it’s strengths-based but was wondering if it is entirely scenario questions or a mix of scenarios with anything else e.g. why the firm, why commercial law. Super nervous!
Treat it like any other work experience section - keep it concise, but make it really specific. Mention where you were sitting, the kind of work you helped with, the actual tasks you did, and what the experience taught you about how commercial law firms work. As always, try to link it back to why you’re confident this is the career you want to pursue. Good luck!Does anybody have any tips on how to write about a different firm's vacation scheme that you have completed in the work experience section of job apps?
Hey - no silly questions here, we’re all figuring this out!A bit of a silly question... for Cooley's summer programme, one of the questions is 'Please tell us about interests and activities you pursue and positions of responsibility that are relevant for the role.' I was wondering if I should place advising at my university's legal clinic in this section instead of the work experience section as I have done previously? Also, would this count as a position of responsibility?
I ask this because its probably my strongest point, but I don't want to repeat what I have said in the work experience section. My other positions of responsibility largely come from my paid employment, so I don't want to mention them in this question. I also have a couple of positions of responsibility from Year 11 but I am very reluctant to use these seeing as it's been four years since then and it seems a little juvenile... 😓
Broken down, this doesn't seem that bad, and there is definitely cross-over with questions from other firms - number 3 is always a tricky one, though, had it in 2 interviews this month, and I think as a prospective trainee you're kind of focused on the prize of the TC offer and haven't necessarily decided what your future career looks like. Interesting on to consider though.1500 words??? who has time for that???? why r they asking me for a tutorial essay???
I know how you feel and tbh I feel a 2k app with a critical thinking test is a long process like do the test with shorter questions or just remove the test.me too lollll - I got the AC 2 years ago when I was in uni and had no legal experience.... I applied again this year and now have 1.5 years of paralegal experience and I got a PFO!!!! crazy....
Hey! I’m a recent law graduate about to start the SQE. I have a training contract offer from Freshfields and previously received interviews from HSF, Milbank, and Trowers & Hamlins for their vac schemes (did not attend HSF though!). I also received a TC offer from Milbank after their vac scheme, as well as a vac scheme place at Trowers that I did not attend. Happy to help with any questions!Welcome new forum members 👀 - can we at least get some lovely introductions, if poss, so we can better direct our queries?
Honestly, this is such a normal feeling. Those video questions feel soo unnatural at first, even if you’re usually a confident speaker. It really does get easier with practice. A big tip is to practice answering questions out loud on camera (even just on your phone) so you get used to talking to a screen rather than a person. Also, don’t worry too much about a bit of overlap between answers. I think assessors expect some repetition, and as long as you shift the angle clearly, that’s completely fine. The more you do these, the more natural and less “artificial” they start to feel, I promise. You’ve got this!gosh I just did my Hogan Lovells test and found the video questions so hard and unnatural. I spoke about the topic of the third question in my second question so it felt a bit too repetitive too, though I did shift focus. I am usually a good speaker but it feels too artificial
Hi! I wanted to give my two cents on this as someone who has failed to convert 3 vac schemes 😭!Hiii, thanks for sharing your experience! Do you have any advice as to how to convert a vac?? And maybe what not to do, or any insight as to why people might not convert one? I’m super nervous for mine and not sure what to expect and how to act lol 😭
I’m a little scared that my written work/ tasks won’t be up to standard, or if I will know how to even approach the task in general (I guess the best approach is to clarify with the supervisor, but still)
I’ve done a one-week vac at a smaller firm but I wasn’t too nervous for it since it wasn’t convertible anyways and it was quite informal.
But since this vac is one with a much larger firm and one I really want, I’m just extra jittery! Any advice would be appreciated!!
If the firm has really said not to bring in past examples then you're probably right in that they are mainly assessing how you approach the situation. I'm sure that there will be differences in the points that each person makes and how they tackle the questions based on their own lived experiences. HOWEVER, if everyone does end up making similar points, the firm will likely distinguish candidates based on energy, confidence, and structure. So for example:could anyone please advise on this please on understanding what a firm is looking for in their video interview process?
- Format: 3 mins to prep 90 seconds to respond
- Told we are being assessed on skills and competencies, and the VI email invite explicitly stated that the VI assesses 4 competencies
- But the firm's video advises us to focus just on how we would approach the situation - to not bring in past examples - but to also show your unique perspective and how we would approach the situation.
- am I correct in thinking that this is what the firm is saying: your skills/past experience is not directly assessed, only how you would approach the situation (which can be informed by past experiences, no matter what that encompassed and how much you have).
- but if everyone is saying similar things and making similar points, how would the firm distinguish between candidates (this is the final stage before the AC)?
Thank you so so much! This is also super helpful!! And damn you should’ve seen my face when I read that last line 😂Hi! I wanted to give my two cents on this as someone who has failed to convert 3 vac schemes 😭!
The biggest mistake I made and one that I've seen drag other top candidates down was confidence. You have to try your best to really put yourself out there and express how interested you are in the work and the firm. There were times where a task that my supervisor was doing was super fascinating to me but because I just quietly did what was assigned to me without voicing this interest, he assumed that I wasn't interested at all.
In terms of the written work/tasks, I did 4-5 forage vac schemes (theforage.com/simulations?careers=law) before my actual vac schemes and this was a really useful example of how lawyers structure and draft documents and I tried to mimic their language and style. This ended up working well for me as I usually performed on the work/tasks.
Lastly I would say to just enjoy the experience, make friends with all the other schemers and try to connect with the lawyers at the firm. Grad Rec can sense your energy and whether someone doesn't fit in with their cohort or the firm and will definitely take it into consideration. Also always be friendly and polite! (Someone on a scheme I attended was kicked off halfway through for making fun of someone's hairline😭)
Elle, you should've seen my face when they made that hair line comment to that poor paralegal😭Thank you so so much! This is also super helpful!! And damn you should’ve seen my face when I read that last line 😂
What I struggle with is knowing if it’s okay to interrupt a partner if I’m interested in their work or if they’re too busy to want to discuss things with you 😭
Haha I guess the best way to go about it is just to be less nervous as it’s easier to be confident and curious when you’re not worrying about the small details (maybe?)
All the best!! Are you applying to DTC or VS’ this year? Or do you have a TC already? Best of luck either way and thanks again!