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<blockquote data-quote="Dheepa" data-source="post: 34618" data-attributes="member: 1572"><p>Hiya,</p><p></p><p>I was in the exact same position last year. Did a vac at a MC firm, didn't get the TC and felt like an absolute and total failure for the rest of the summer. Fast forward to this year - I secured three vac schemes, received TC offers from two of them and am currently waiting on the last one. Trust me when I say you are not doomed at all.</p><p></p><p>Some vaguely motivational nonsense you didn't ask for:</p><p></p><p>Not being able to convert a vac sometimes has more to do with things that were out of your control i.e. whether your feedback providers liked you or whether your feedback providers/interviewers thought you were the "right fit" for the firm. It took a lot of self-reflection and down days for me to realise this stuff. If you've made it to a vacation scheme you are 100% TC material - maybe this wasn't the firm for you and no matter how convinced you were that they were the one, there probably is better out there for you. Trust the process. Your vac scheme is undeniable proof you have the skills so try not to doubt yourself too much.</p><p></p><p>Will firms view me negatively:</p><p></p><p>The four ACs I made it to this year, I was only asked the "Why did you fail to get the TC?" question once. It is worthwhile mentioning the feedback you received + the steps you've taken to improve. Personally, I knew the MC firm was not the right fit for me and I was brutally honest about this. I made sure to explain + spun it into a "this is why I've applied to your firm - you are different from the X things I didn't like". I think the partners loved the fact that I was genuine about it and they even said they were relieved by my answer because they couldn't think of a firm more different to theirs than that particular MC firm. So weirdly enough, your interviewers may actually see it as a semi-positive thing that a particular firm turned out not to be the place for you (and you'll probably end up having a good laugh about it with them like I did).</p><p></p><p>Tangible things to do to prep for the next cycle:</p><p></p><p>1. Make a list of the firms you want to apply to. For firms whose apps haven't changed in years go ahead and start drafting answers, especially if they're rolling apps - gives you more time to produce a quality app.</p><p>2. Join the SEO London Corporate Law Programme and the Aspire Programme with AS. Both were invaluable to me this year. The trainees I met were so incredibly helpful when it came to giving me AC advice and the application reviews offered were phenomenal. SEO London also run a particularly fantastic convert your VS into a TC workshop with a future trainee at K&E who gives some of the most helpful advice ever.</p><p></p><p>Sorry for the excessively long post - hope I helped!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dheepa, post: 34618, member: 1572"] Hiya, I was in the exact same position last year. Did a vac at a MC firm, didn't get the TC and felt like an absolute and total failure for the rest of the summer. Fast forward to this year - I secured three vac schemes, received TC offers from two of them and am currently waiting on the last one. Trust me when I say you are not doomed at all. Some vaguely motivational nonsense you didn't ask for: Not being able to convert a vac sometimes has more to do with things that were out of your control i.e. whether your feedback providers liked you or whether your feedback providers/interviewers thought you were the "right fit" for the firm. It took a lot of self-reflection and down days for me to realise this stuff. If you've made it to a vacation scheme you are 100% TC material - maybe this wasn't the firm for you and no matter how convinced you were that they were the one, there probably is better out there for you. Trust the process. Your vac scheme is undeniable proof you have the skills so try not to doubt yourself too much. Will firms view me negatively: The four ACs I made it to this year, I was only asked the "Why did you fail to get the TC?" question once. It is worthwhile mentioning the feedback you received + the steps you've taken to improve. Personally, I knew the MC firm was not the right fit for me and I was brutally honest about this. I made sure to explain + spun it into a "this is why I've applied to your firm - you are different from the X things I didn't like". I think the partners loved the fact that I was genuine about it and they even said they were relieved by my answer because they couldn't think of a firm more different to theirs than that particular MC firm. So weirdly enough, your interviewers may actually see it as a semi-positive thing that a particular firm turned out not to be the place for you (and you'll probably end up having a good laugh about it with them like I did). Tangible things to do to prep for the next cycle: 1. Make a list of the firms you want to apply to. For firms whose apps haven't changed in years go ahead and start drafting answers, especially if they're rolling apps - gives you more time to produce a quality app. 2. Join the SEO London Corporate Law Programme and the Aspire Programme with AS. Both were invaluable to me this year. The trainees I met were so incredibly helpful when it came to giving me AC advice and the application reviews offered were phenomenal. SEO London also run a particularly fantastic convert your VS into a TC workshop with a future trainee at K&E who gives some of the most helpful advice ever. Sorry for the excessively long post - hope I helped! [/QUOTE]
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