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<blockquote data-quote="Dheepa" data-source="post: 64728" data-attributes="member: 1572"><p>Hey! Your question isn't rude at all haha! Completely understandable to want to know what went wrong for me. 😅</p><p></p><p>The S&M VS structure is pretty unconventional I think. When I did it in 2019, none of the work you do throughout the scheme is assessed in any way. While your supervising associate is given a feedback form to fill and can recommend if you should be made a TC offer, the final TC decision hinges solely on the case study and interview with the two partners. According to the feedback I received, I didn't show enough analytical ability in the case study and article discussion with the partners. And unfortunately for me, any work that I did produce throughout the scheme that maybe would have evidenced better analytical ability didn't get taken into account.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, the great thing about not being assessed on work throughout the scheme is that you can really take the opportunity to enjoy getting to know the firm. Set up coffees with people in different departments. reach out to anyone you'd like to do work for, just enjoy yourself really, because I think the scheme actually allows for that. I do think it matters that you show your enthusiasm to work at the firm though. GR were always at the back of the room during any talks or practice areas introductions we had and being the engaged person that always has questions prepared definitely makes a difference. Even with the scheme likely being virtual now this will probably still be the case. I've mentioned this elsewhere before but I realised pretty early on in the scheme that S&M was not the place for me and this probably affected my ability to be enthusiastic. Although this wasn't part of my official feedback, I'm sure it did in some way make a difference to me not getting the TC.</p><p></p><p>Other things worth knowing about the scheme is that you will get asked to re-submit a cover letter and CV through the application portal. Although GR will tell you nothing needs to change aside from updating module results or work experience, this is a really good opportunity for you to demonstrate what you've learnt about the firm during the VS and how your motivations for wanting to train at the firm have developed or changed. So make sure you keep track of any meaningful conversations you're having with people so you can draw upon them when you need to re-submit the CL.</p><p></p><p>For the final interview, expect the partners to push you a lot harder than they did during the VS interview. Across the board I think everyone on my VS felt that the TC interview was tougher so make sure you prepare for that (maybe book some mock interviews with your careers service or with TCLA). I would also recommend preparing heavily in advance for the case study. Brush up on your commercial awareness consistently and use the practice case studies on TCLA to improve your writing. The interview and case study are make or break at S&M and it can a very daunting thought but if you're preparing well in advance then you genuinely have nothing to worry about.</p><p></p><p>Hope that helps!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dheepa, post: 64728, member: 1572"] Hey! Your question isn't rude at all haha! Completely understandable to want to know what went wrong for me. 😅 The S&M VS structure is pretty unconventional I think. When I did it in 2019, none of the work you do throughout the scheme is assessed in any way. While your supervising associate is given a feedback form to fill and can recommend if you should be made a TC offer, the final TC decision hinges solely on the case study and interview with the two partners. According to the feedback I received, I didn't show enough analytical ability in the case study and article discussion with the partners. And unfortunately for me, any work that I did produce throughout the scheme that maybe would have evidenced better analytical ability didn't get taken into account. Honestly, the great thing about not being assessed on work throughout the scheme is that you can really take the opportunity to enjoy getting to know the firm. Set up coffees with people in different departments. reach out to anyone you'd like to do work for, just enjoy yourself really, because I think the scheme actually allows for that. I do think it matters that you show your enthusiasm to work at the firm though. GR were always at the back of the room during any talks or practice areas introductions we had and being the engaged person that always has questions prepared definitely makes a difference. Even with the scheme likely being virtual now this will probably still be the case. I've mentioned this elsewhere before but I realised pretty early on in the scheme that S&M was not the place for me and this probably affected my ability to be enthusiastic. Although this wasn't part of my official feedback, I'm sure it did in some way make a difference to me not getting the TC. Other things worth knowing about the scheme is that you will get asked to re-submit a cover letter and CV through the application portal. Although GR will tell you nothing needs to change aside from updating module results or work experience, this is a really good opportunity for you to demonstrate what you've learnt about the firm during the VS and how your motivations for wanting to train at the firm have developed or changed. So make sure you keep track of any meaningful conversations you're having with people so you can draw upon them when you need to re-submit the CL. For the final interview, expect the partners to push you a lot harder than they did during the VS interview. Across the board I think everyone on my VS felt that the TC interview was tougher so make sure you prepare for that (maybe book some mock interviews with your careers service or with TCLA). I would also recommend preparing heavily in advance for the case study. Brush up on your commercial awareness consistently and use the practice case studies on TCLA to improve your writing. The interview and case study are make or break at S&M and it can a very daunting thought but if you're preparing well in advance then you genuinely have nothing to worry about. Hope that helps! [/QUOTE]
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