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<blockquote data-quote="Jaysen" data-source="post: 7061" data-attributes="member: 1"><p>Some thoughts:</p><p></p><p><strong>Q1) If shareholders vote yes to a decision but the directors vote no to a decision, whose decision would/should prevail in the end?</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><span style="color: #0059b3">It sounds like you might be mixing up a board meeting (where directors vote) and a general meeting (where shareholders vote). </span></p><p></p><p>a) I know that directors run the company and make management decisions. So what about the shareholders' views?</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0059b3">At least in theory, directors are supposed to make decisions to promote the success of the company <strong>for the shareholders as a whole</strong>. This suggests they should factor in shareholders' views when they make decisions. But they're not obligated to. </span></p><p><span style="color: #0059b3"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0059b3">In reality, there will be factors encouraging directors to take into account shareholders' views, such as the fact that shareholders can terminate and re-appoint them to the board.</span></p><p></p><p>b) Can the directors refuse to follow the shareholders' opinion? If yes, what can the shareholders do about it?</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0059b3">Yes they can. If shareholders make up 5% of the voting shares they can require the directors to call a general meeting and pass a resolution to redress the situation. If the decision hasn't been made, they could also pass a special resolution instructing directors to do/not do something (assuming the company has model articles). They could also appoint more directors or remove directors who are in favour of their opinion. Finally, the shareholders could go to the courts with some kind of claim (if this is the kind of situation we are talking about).</span></p><p></p><p>c) Do the answers in relation to Q1-2 depend on what decision is to be made and whether shareholders' approval is required for that decision in the first place?</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0059b3">Sort of. If shareholders' approval is required, it means there will be a general meeting. Shareholders can have their chance to vote when this is called and prevent a decision being passed - if they have enough votes. </span></p><p><span style="color: #0059b3"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0059b3">If the decision didn't depend on shareholder approval, the shareholders would have to call a general meeting for this vote to happen.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0059b3"></span></p><p><strong>Q2) Why do shareholders go for derivative claims if the damages go to the company in the end? What is in it for the shareholders? (Dividends?) Why not go for an alternative route?</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><span style="color: #0059b3">I guess it's to stop problematic directors making bad decisions for the company, especially when they have a big influence over the board and when you're just a minority shareholder. As you said, the benefit is for the company, so if you're looking for damages for a particular shareholder, this is not the best route. In practice, derivative actions are a very limited avenue to take.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jaysen, post: 7061, member: 1"] Some thoughts: [B]Q1) If shareholders vote yes to a decision but the directors vote no to a decision, whose decision would/should prevail in the end? [/B] [COLOR=#0059b3]It sounds like you might be mixing up a board meeting (where directors vote) and a general meeting (where shareholders vote). [/COLOR] a) I know that directors run the company and make management decisions. So what about the shareholders' views? [COLOR=#0059b3]At least in theory, directors are supposed to make decisions to promote the success of the company [B]for the shareholders as a whole[/B]. This suggests they should factor in shareholders' views when they make decisions. But they're not obligated to. In reality, there will be factors encouraging directors to take into account shareholders' views, such as the fact that shareholders can terminate and re-appoint them to the board.[/COLOR] b) Can the directors refuse to follow the shareholders' opinion? If yes, what can the shareholders do about it? [COLOR=#0059b3]Yes they can. If shareholders make up 5% of the voting shares they can require the directors to call a general meeting and pass a resolution to redress the situation. If the decision hasn't been made, they could also pass a special resolution instructing directors to do/not do something (assuming the company has model articles). They could also appoint more directors or remove directors who are in favour of their opinion. Finally, the shareholders could go to the courts with some kind of claim (if this is the kind of situation we are talking about).[/COLOR] c) Do the answers in relation to Q1-2 depend on what decision is to be made and whether shareholders' approval is required for that decision in the first place? [COLOR=#0059b3]Sort of. If shareholders' approval is required, it means there will be a general meeting. Shareholders can have their chance to vote when this is called and prevent a decision being passed - if they have enough votes. If the decision didn't depend on shareholder approval, the shareholders would have to call a general meeting for this vote to happen. [/COLOR] [B]Q2) Why do shareholders go for derivative claims if the damages go to the company in the end? What is in it for the shareholders? (Dividends?) Why not go for an alternative route? [/B] [COLOR=#0059b3]I guess it's to stop problematic directors making bad decisions for the company, especially when they have a big influence over the board and when you're just a minority shareholder. As you said, the benefit is for the company, so if you're looking for damages for a particular shareholder, this is not the best route. In practice, derivative actions are a very limited avenue to take.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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