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This is my first time posting on here!
I am a Law Graduate, and recently made it to a final stage TC interview following a Vac Scheme, but I was unsuccessful. The feedback I received was that I performed well in all my tasks and I came across very well in all my meetings and discussions. However, for two tasks and the negotiation exercise, there were concerns about my analysis and my ability to orally communicate this (both task-wise and with commercial awareness). This is why, following quite a difficult TC interview, I was not offered the TC.
I was just wondering if anybody had any advice about improving these areas (deep analysis and communicating this, particularly when it comes to Commercial Awareness).
Also, if anybody has any tips on overcoming this rejection. This firm's policy means you can't reapply following rejection, but I'd hate to make the same mistakes with another firm! Unfortunately I had an overrunning medical appointment so I missed yesterday's...
I'm feeling really low, really rubbish and lost the slightest confidence I had.
Sat mocks for criminal and EU a few weeks ago. Results were in today. Shocking. My heart sank. I had a set structure, which obviously changed a bit here and there based on facts.
Just as a side note, my background is engineering, A+ grade student.
Feedback as follows:
This is a confusing submission. Poor in places and not currently demonstrating your effective application of the law/learning to the facts.
Review your writing style to facilitate a closer link between AR/MR and the facts. Remember to follow the flow of the question.
Many problems with expression and presentation.
The structure (Direct Effect, Indirect Effect, State Liability) is fine but you do not articulate well all the relevant legal concepts and tests.
Your application of the law to the facts is often hesitant and unconvincing.
Clearly you have some knowledge but you need to develop a more assured writing...
I am currently studying LLM at UCL, and I have previously offered to share tips on writing the personal statement, as well as my own personal statement, in this thread https://www.thecorporatelawacademy.com/forum/threads/llm-personal-statement.2278/#post-42366.
Considering the overwhelming number of requests I keep on receiving, I thought it would be easier to share it here for everyone to access!
In terms of guidance, I think what you write into your personal statements depends greatly on your background/experience/reasons why you want to study LLM and whether you have a specific interest in some area of law.
I have separated my personal statement into the following sections:
- why I want to study at UCL;
- why I am a great candidate (great if it links to something that happens at UCL as shows what you can bring to the community, e.g. my interest in LWOW);
- what I want to study when I come there, proposed research essay topic and how it...
Hello, I hope this long post finds you well during such tough times.
I'd truly appreciate any advice.
I'm 19 and currently studying Computer Science at a non-RG University.
My goal has always been to eventually go into law, but following some difficult times during & after my A levels, I completely threw that dream away and chose to study CompSci.
The goal now is to graduate, do the GDL (soon to be called SQE), and get a career within corporate law.
Why do I want to all of a sudden do Law again? Honestly? Because I know deep down that I can, I'm not someone who lets her fears control her & I'm not about to become that girl now. I know I can do this, but others don't seem to think so.
I thought my plans to become a lawyer were ruined following my A level results when I found out I had received grades B and C in my exams. I went on a gap year & tried to sort myself out as much as possible (mentally & physically).
I did have extenuating/mitigating circumstances near the end of my...
We're delighted to announce that applications for Shearman & Sterling's 2021 vacation schemes are open.
The firm is running four vacation schemes on the following dates:
- Spring Vacation Scheme One: 8 – 20 March 2021 (deadline – 17 January 2021)
- Spring Vacation Scheme Two: 12 – 24 April 2021 (deadline – 17 January 2021)
- Summer Vacation Scheme One: 14 – 25 June 2021 (deadline – 17 January 2021)
- Summer Vacation Scheme Two: 5 – 16 July 2021 (deadline – 17 January 2021)
For more details, and to apply, please see this page.
On the vacation scheme, you will...
As the title suggests, I’m interested to hear what motivates you to become a commercial lawyer?
In my view, finding your reasons why you want to become a commercial lawyer is one of the hardest parts of the application as you have to combine your experiences with your understanding of what a commercial lawyer does.
I hope by starting this thread, and people sharing their own motivations, others may be able to paint a better picture of what motivates them!
Hi, I hope everyone is doing well!
I am in my third application cycle and have attended seven assessment centres over the years, all at MC, SC and US firms. As the thread title suggests, I have not been successful at all and have not attended any vacation scheme. I managed to build on my feedback from the first three ACs but have not been able to receive any feedback for my last four ACs. I have attended mock interviews with my uni's careers services, charities and graduate recruitment teams at city firms (held in conjunction with my uni). One of the graduate recruiters even said I have a realistic shot at getting a TC!
Some of my friends say interviews often come down to luck/whether I bonded with my interviewers etc but I believe that if seven firms do not want me, then the problem must lie with me, not luck.
I would be really grateful for any views/advice/opinions. Thank you in advance !
Hi everybody, I hope to receive some help here. I see this community here is nice and polite.
I am a young guy, EU citizen, I live in London and am currently working from home as account manager for a big corporation.
Despite being currently employed, I am looking for a job as a paralegal because I have a law degree but I've never stepped into this world shortly after graduating.
Before you ask why, I would explain you: in my country qualifying as a lawyer is insanely difficult if you don't have any references, bar association there is a strong protectionist lobby and passing the bar exam is next to impossible. And to sit for it you have to go under an unpaid 2-year legal internship.
As I was in a rollercoaster of unemployment and temporary job positions, and considering I found this wonderful remote opportunity in London several months ago, in the middle of Lockdown, I've decided to move there immediately. However, despite loving this job, I miss not working in my field...
For our webinars, I'm looking to pick apart a few answers for the following application questions:
- Why this firm?
- Why commercial law?
- Tell us about your extra-curricular activities/positions of responsibility etc.
- Competency questions
- Tell us about a news story that interests you and why (or similar variation)?
If anyone would be happy to share an answer for any of the above questions, please could you comment below and let me know the answer(s) to which questions you're happy to share. I'll then contact about 10 of you.
As a thank you for allowing us to use it for the recorded webinar, you'll receive a £5 Amazon Gift Card for sharing your answers and a free spot on our webinar (if you aren't already a premium member).
In the answer you share, feel free to redact any personal information from your answers e.g. organisation names. You will also be...
Please take this with a pinch of salt. Most of it is accurate, especially in the last section where firms are clear on their websites that they only recruit vac schemers, but things get more ambiguous in the first two sections. My main sources have been legal articles, but I've also combed through the TCLA forums to find where people have posted about speaking directly to grad rec and asking them this question. In a very few cases I've used Jessica's formula as a rough guide to work out how many places you could expect to be taken up by VS versus TC.
Be aware that in the second section, I've included a lot of American firms which technically have a direct TC route open (e.g. Akin Gump) but they only have 12 trainees, so you can expect pretty much all of those to have come from the VS. I just didn't want to say that you definitely wouldn't be hired if you applied directly, so these firms aren't in the last section.
Also, this is a work in progress. I've left out a...
Jaysen asked me to create a new thread with this list for better visibility:
- A&O: Rolling (https://krb-sjobs.brassring.com/TGn...siteid=5040&Areq=3883BR#jobDetails=30326_5040)
- Bird & Bird: Rolling (https://londongraduates.twobirds.com/faqs/)
- Clyde & Co: Rolling (https://www.instagram.com/p/CF9_tueJSLs/)
- CMS: Rolling (https://www.cmsearlytalent.com/faqs)
- Dentons: Rolling (https://challengers.dentons.com/uk-trainees/applications/applications-process/)
- FieldFisher: Rolling (https://www.fieldfisher.com/en/careers/graduates)
- Gibson Dunn: Rolling (https://www.gibsondunn.com/careers/law-students/)
- Hogan Lovells: Rolling (https://graduates.hoganlovells.com/page/vacation-schemes/)
- HFW: Rolling (http://www.training-contracts.com/Grad-Rec-Our-Recruitment-Process)...
I know this could be pretty controversial but I wanted everyone's opinion on legal tech which is shaking up the industry (and at a time where many junior positions are under threat).
Whilst I appreciate that obtaining a TC is the holy grail, and that if both opportunities presented themselves equally most would opt for a TC, how much consideration would give to an opportunity to work in legal tech (e.g. as a legal technologist).
I ask this as someone who is wrestling with the whole TC process, year after year, but I know that eventually I'd probably want to work in legal tech - therefore, a legal technologist role might be perfect for me.
However, I am concerned about the salary, progress and potential limitations of such a role which compared to what may eventually be regarded as the 'traditional lawyer' route.
What do you guys think? Would you consider legal tech as an alternative to the TC route? Do you have any concerns or reservations about taking on a role in legal...
Hi everyone, I don't meant to bring everyone down with me but recently I've been feeling pretty hopeless
I've applied to well over 20-30 vac schemes over the last year, and I keep facing rejection after rejection. I know it's simply a part of the process and everyone goes through it, but I keep feeling like I just won't get anything. I've tried to build up my experiences over summer by starting my own company and last year I was a part of a committee for a decently large society. Work experience wise, I had two weeks of informal shadowing at DWF and I worked as a hospitality waiter over the last year.
Apart from that I haven't really got a whole lot - I feel like everyone else applying just has so much more impressive stuff to talk about. I tried to secure some type of remote internships over the summer and didn't get anything. I just don't know where I'm lacking and what I can do in the short time available to me to improve.
Sorry for this rant, I just feel a bit down...
Genuine question to anyone doing applications right now. is it the salary? prestige? buzz? competitiveness? London life? Or is it actually the work? if so why?
What makes it worth the mindnumbing hours going into applications right now?
This is my first post and I'd appreciate any advice and support for my journey
By way of background, I am a State school educated BME student, currently studying LLB at a top London university. However my academic journey is quite unconventional, I achieved ABC at ALevel and ABBBBCCC at GCSE (GCSE had mitigating circumstances)
I have achieved high firsts (73+) at university in all my modules (incl. Contract +EU) for first year but am worried that with my poor secondary school grades this will hinder my chances of making it past the application stage, especially considering firms like CC (my desired firm) are recruiting penultimate years, so I will only have the first year set of grades to go by. My WE and EC are quite diverse and I made sure to explore my interests and participate in activities.
The other firms I am interested in applying to after CC were Linklaters/Freshfields /Slaughter and May and Ashurst, I have had to be realistic with the entry...
After finishing the GDL and several years of applications, I finally got a vacation scheme this year, which I was so proud of and thoroughly enjoyed. However, I got rejected from their training contract after an interview, and I can't help but feel like I'm back to square one... I've recently started a full time job (non legal admin role), and the hours are pretty long, I'm commuting and I'm left with very little free time (or energy) as a result. I'd applied for a few virtual open days/law fairs etc over the next few months as I thought these things would help me stand out a bit more, but now I'm unable to attend them due to my job. I'd be more than willing to use my holiday for law-related things, but I'm not able to take holiday until November/December, plus I'd like to save some of it to potentially do some vacation schemes. I just can't help but feel that there's no point in even trying - I barely have the time to apply, let alone do 'extra' things, I'm not even doing a legal...
I received my GDL grades not so long ago, and I am very sad to say, but I completely messed them up.
I got a 53 for Contract and a 57 for Public Law (part-time GDL course).
I really do not know where I went wrong, I was so confident that I would at least hit 60% or above on both modules.
Please can someone help me on increasing my grade from a mere pass to a commendation level?
Fortunately, I can retake them uncapped and I want to be able to improve them drastically.
Any help would be much appreciated - I am the first in my family to attend university and haven't been able to tell my parents my results as they would be so disappointed in me. I feel so sad at the moment.
Thanks for reading.
With our premium section, we're looking to go beyond teaching 'technical' skills and provide a range of courses on softer skills (tailored towards working in the highly pressurised corporate environment).
We're currently in discussions with a company to deliver courses on mental health/resilience training for you guys. These will be designed to prepare you for the intensity of the environment within commercial law, teach you methods to manage stress and burnout, teach you about emotional intelligence, and support you if you deal with feelings such as imposter syndrome etc. The company typically provides this training to law firms, but I think we'd benefit from giving you guys these tools earlier in your journey.
Mental health is an area I'm hugely passionate about, but before we go ahead, I wanted to get a sense of what you guys thought. Would this be of value to you to learn about before you secure a training contract? Would you be keen to complete this course?
As the TCLA membership continues to grow, demand for our services like our application reviews continues to grow too. This means more of the team are getting involved in reviewing applications to ensure we can meet demand.
To ensure we are providing a consistent service, the team want to do some benchmarking against one another to see how we individually review applications. We feel this will help to educate one another and ensure we provide the best review service we can to everyone.
Given this, we'd like to offer two people the opportunity for a free application review. This is separate to any other similar opportunities, like those Alice and I have recently offered elsewhere in the forums (for anyone waiting from me about the opportunity I mentioned in August, you should hear from me later this week - sorry for the delay!).
Please just post "I am interested" in a reply to this thread by 23.59 on Wednesday 16 September and two people will be drawn at random. The...
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