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<blockquote data-quote="I’m_Batman" data-source="post: 148077" data-attributes="member: 30556"><p>My experience has been that unlike traditional law firms that have a specific recruitment cycle, in-house opportunities may not be as widely advertised or come about sporadically opposed to the Winter/Sping/Summer VS or TC window. That isn't true for the Big 4 but speculative applications sent to the legal department's general email or the head of legal could be a way to get your foot in the door in these cases. With law firms, there is a long history of firms engaging with universities and students. This is only now slowly changing with the entrance of the Big 4 and other in-house options, but they still have less visibility in career fairs and forums. Traditionally, folks go in-house after gaining a few years of experience in private practice. This has been the traditional route, and there is a notion (though it is changing) that a lawyer needs private practice experience before going in-house.</p><p></p><p>The Big 4 have Chambers Student pages and have been covered but I think that you're asking a question that is quite insightful, and not naïve or stupid at all. The focus on training contracts and vacation schemes in commercial law firms tends to overshadow other pathways into the legal profession, there's no doubt about it. I think in-house aren't advertised as much because law firms have been running TCs for a much longer period of time and generally potential trainees might be worried that they'd have a smaller infrastructure set when it comes to training junior lawyers from scratch in the same volume. That's palpably untrue for the Big 4 or big in-house companies but it's a perception that still hasn't gone away in my opinion. Also, if you're a young potential trainee (or older potential trainee) I feel like (at least in my case) you'd want to experience a variety of seats. In-house would probably have a different route where those roles require lawyers to have specialized experience in specific areas of law. They may not have the variety of work that allows for a rounded training contract experience. Law also seems to be a bit classist still, where if you start at a big company* that isn't considered 'big' you'd be scared you would never work in a big firm with big money (and in London big money doesn't even feel like big money any more).</p><p></p><p>It's a shame because in-house is better than private practice in so many ways imo.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I’m_Batman, post: 148077, member: 30556"] My experience has been that unlike traditional law firms that have a specific recruitment cycle, in-house opportunities may not be as widely advertised or come about sporadically opposed to the Winter/Sping/Summer VS or TC window. That isn't true for the Big 4 but speculative applications sent to the legal department's general email or the head of legal could be a way to get your foot in the door in these cases. With law firms, there is a long history of firms engaging with universities and students. This is only now slowly changing with the entrance of the Big 4 and other in-house options, but they still have less visibility in career fairs and forums. Traditionally, folks go in-house after gaining a few years of experience in private practice. This has been the traditional route, and there is a notion (though it is changing) that a lawyer needs private practice experience before going in-house. The Big 4 have Chambers Student pages and have been covered but I think that you're asking a question that is quite insightful, and not naïve or stupid at all. The focus on training contracts and vacation schemes in commercial law firms tends to overshadow other pathways into the legal profession, there's no doubt about it. I think in-house aren't advertised as much because law firms have been running TCs for a much longer period of time and generally potential trainees might be worried that they'd have a smaller infrastructure set when it comes to training junior lawyers from scratch in the same volume. That's palpably untrue for the Big 4 or big in-house companies but it's a perception that still hasn't gone away in my opinion. Also, if you're a young potential trainee (or older potential trainee) I feel like (at least in my case) you'd want to experience a variety of seats. In-house would probably have a different route where those roles require lawyers to have specialized experience in specific areas of law. They may not have the variety of work that allows for a rounded training contract experience. Law also seems to be a bit classist still, where if you start at a big company* that isn't considered 'big' you'd be scared you would never work in a big firm with big money (and in London big money doesn't even feel like big money any more). It's a shame because in-house is better than private practice in so many ways imo. [/QUOTE]
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