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<blockquote data-quote="TC fiend" data-source="post: 115094" data-attributes="member: 12349"><p>I think that’s a great idea <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> I’d say my tips would be that 1) you’re most likely to get a response from someone who has something in common with you (for example, similar school, similar background, perhaps involved in a network you’re really keen to join or in a practice group you want to hear more about) and 2) people respond well to both positivity and flattery. That second point may sound cliche but hear me out. A lot of firms, consciously or subconsciously, will hold onto some sort of hierarchy. It’s not as harshly divided in every firm, but definitely true for some. Sort of inevitable in an environment where your pay is directly tied to your seniority. So if you open in a very positive way to someone a bit lower on the metaphorical ladder, like a trainee (“Saw you had a similar background to my own, would really love to get your insight on your experiences so far.”), you’re both indicating you value their insight and expressing that you are relying on their views as an authority. It may sound a bit backwards, but everyone likes feeling like someone needs their advice, and this is a good opportunity to do it.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, and you’d think this was obvious but apparently it isn’t, for the love of all things sacred don’t use that coffee to express your doubts about the firm/law. An associate friend got coffee with a vac schemer who talked about not being sure they wanted to be a lawyer, and it left a really sour taste in my friend’s mouth because the application process is SO competitive and there are so many people who would’ve killed for that spot (metaphorically, obvs). So really do try to keep it positive and bring some genuine enthusiasm into the conversation. If you have critical questions, try to phrase them positively (“I’ve noticed I find this more difficult/different than what I expected because X. What do you think?”) </p><p></p><p>Lastly, come prepared with a few questions. YOU wanted to grab a coffee so YOU should have some idea of what you’d like to talk about. Make it worth everyone’s while!</p><p></p><p>Hope that’s given you some direction, let me know if you have any more questions <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TC fiend, post: 115094, member: 12349"] I think that’s a great idea :) I’d say my tips would be that 1) you’re most likely to get a response from someone who has something in common with you (for example, similar school, similar background, perhaps involved in a network you’re really keen to join or in a practice group you want to hear more about) and 2) people respond well to both positivity and flattery. That second point may sound cliche but hear me out. A lot of firms, consciously or subconsciously, will hold onto some sort of hierarchy. It’s not as harshly divided in every firm, but definitely true for some. Sort of inevitable in an environment where your pay is directly tied to your seniority. So if you open in a very positive way to someone a bit lower on the metaphorical ladder, like a trainee (“Saw you had a similar background to my own, would really love to get your insight on your experiences so far.”), you’re both indicating you value their insight and expressing that you are relying on their views as an authority. It may sound a bit backwards, but everyone likes feeling like someone needs their advice, and this is a good opportunity to do it. Secondly, and you’d think this was obvious but apparently it isn’t, for the love of all things sacred don’t use that coffee to express your doubts about the firm/law. An associate friend got coffee with a vac schemer who talked about not being sure they wanted to be a lawyer, and it left a really sour taste in my friend’s mouth because the application process is SO competitive and there are so many people who would’ve killed for that spot (metaphorically, obvs). So really do try to keep it positive and bring some genuine enthusiasm into the conversation. If you have critical questions, try to phrase them positively (“I’ve noticed I find this more difficult/different than what I expected because X. What do you think?”) Lastly, come prepared with a few questions. YOU wanted to grab a coffee so YOU should have some idea of what you’d like to talk about. Make it worth everyone’s while! Hope that’s given you some direction, let me know if you have any more questions :) [/QUOTE]
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