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<blockquote data-quote="Jessica Booker" data-source="post: 13559" data-attributes="member: 2672"><p>Good old Johan.... I can’t say I miss my TSR days for having to try and explain flaws in theories like this.</p><p></p><p>Both of Johan’s assumptions will skew the data badly - and they are awful assumptions. It shows they don’t know much about educational systems across the world, nor factors that influence people to non disclose in this type of data. There’s usually a high representation of people who don’t disclose from minorities rather than the elite.</p><p></p><p>There’s little point comparing to the national average of people who are privately educated - you need to look at the demographic of those at university. And for law firms who typically have a high A-level filter, you need to look at those top ranked universities. That will be somewhere between 20-40% (approx) for most Russell Group unis (and that’s only the domestic students).</p><p></p><p>1) no - its heavily skewed given the poor assumptions.</p><p></p><p>2) No - the data won’t have changed that much due to the lag in graduate recruitment for law.</p><p></p><p>3) AAB grade filters, privately educated people having a stronger education in the skills needed to succeed in law (debating clubs, proper grammar), better connections to the industry (private schools will have more parents of the pupils who are lawyers), higher proportion of privately educated kids going to target universities, higher number of applications from people who are privately educated, confidence in applying (no one’s told them they can’t do it), better mentors and alumni networks, the number who have afford to self fund the GDL and/or LPC (you tend to see a much higher proportion of privately non-law grads than you do state school educated law grads in trainee intakes).</p><p></p><p>The list could go on</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jessica Booker, post: 13559, member: 2672"] Good old Johan.... I can’t say I miss my TSR days for having to try and explain flaws in theories like this. Both of Johan’s assumptions will skew the data badly - and they are awful assumptions. It shows they don’t know much about educational systems across the world, nor factors that influence people to non disclose in this type of data. There’s usually a high representation of people who don’t disclose from minorities rather than the elite. There’s little point comparing to the national average of people who are privately educated - you need to look at the demographic of those at university. And for law firms who typically have a high A-level filter, you need to look at those top ranked universities. That will be somewhere between 20-40% (approx) for most Russell Group unis (and that’s only the domestic students). 1) no - its heavily skewed given the poor assumptions. 2) No - the data won’t have changed that much due to the lag in graduate recruitment for law. 3) AAB grade filters, privately educated people having a stronger education in the skills needed to succeed in law (debating clubs, proper grammar), better connections to the industry (private schools will have more parents of the pupils who are lawyers), higher proportion of privately educated kids going to target universities, higher number of applications from people who are privately educated, confidence in applying (no one’s told them they can’t do it), better mentors and alumni networks, the number who have afford to self fund the GDL and/or LPC (you tend to see a much higher proportion of privately non-law grads than you do state school educated law grads in trainee intakes). The list could go on [/QUOTE]
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