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Should I defer my TC to attend ACs?
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<blockquote data-quote="James Carrabino" data-source="post: 105050" data-attributes="member: 16764"><p>First of all, congratulations on receiving an offer from such an excellent firm!!</p><p></p><p>To be completely honest here, the decision seems like a no-brainer to me unless, of course, there are factors influencing your decision making process which you have not mentioned here (e.g. practice area focus)!</p><p></p><p>A lot of us at TCLA know from experience that an AC can be a far cry from a TC... 🤣 I am sure that you would be a great candidate and can ace your AC, but even then you will have <em>at least </em>a year delay before starting your TC regardless of which path you choose.</p><p></p><p>Now, if there is something that you were already considering doing for a year then this is not a consideration at all or could even be a plus factor for you. Otherwise, the year delay in starting your career could cancel out the perceived brand difference between the two since you will have excellent training regardless and a year of extra experience could be desirable should you want to move elsewhere. Only if you know that Linklaters or Hogan Lovells is your dream firm where you ultimately want to spend your career, then might I consider delaying (although there could still be a good chance of ending up there later on).</p><p></p><p>It also all depends on what kind of law you want to do. If your silver circle firm is Macfarlanes and you want to do private client work, then I would absolutely go there instead of Hogan Lovells or Linklaters even if the offers were all to start at the same time. Note that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Circle_(law_firms)" target="_blank">the Wikipedia article about the Magic Circle</a> clarifies that Silver Circle firms often rank higher than Magic Circle firms in a range of areas and that the main difference is their more domestic focus as opposed to the MC's global focus - 'Contrary to what the term Silver Circle may suggest, there is no Golden Circle'.</p><p></p><p>You will have excellent training at your Silver Circle firm and there is high liquidity in the associate market meaning that you could easily end up at a Magic Circle firm later on. Both Magic Circle and Silver Circle trainees often end up at US firms anyway!</p><p></p><p>Considering the visa issue and the year delay (unless this could be a plus for you), in addition to the uncertainty of whether you will even get an offer, I would definitely begin your Silver Circle TC. On the other hand, I would not worry about the SQE consideration - everyone will be doing it next year so it really cannot pose that much uncertainty. Besides, one would hope that they are implementing it since it is better than the LPC...</p><p></p><p>Finally, is it possible to do the interviews and simply not defer your current offer? You could then drop out if necessary, and I disagree with [USER=1245]@DT89[/USER] on the point about ethics because there is a reason that the SRA withdrew from the code of good practice in recruitment back in 2015... it is impossible to enforce and many firms choose not to uphold it. Ultimately, applicants have very little power in this process so it could be seen as unfair to ask them to uphold a recruitment code which firms do not.</p><p></p><p>Congratulations again and do let us know what you decide <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James Carrabino, post: 105050, member: 16764"] First of all, congratulations on receiving an offer from such an excellent firm!! To be completely honest here, the decision seems like a no-brainer to me unless, of course, there are factors influencing your decision making process which you have not mentioned here (e.g. practice area focus)! A lot of us at TCLA know from experience that an AC can be a far cry from a TC... 🤣 I am sure that you would be a great candidate and can ace your AC, but even then you will have [I]at least [/I]a year delay before starting your TC regardless of which path you choose. Now, if there is something that you were already considering doing for a year then this is not a consideration at all or could even be a plus factor for you. Otherwise, the year delay in starting your career could cancel out the perceived brand difference between the two since you will have excellent training regardless and a year of extra experience could be desirable should you want to move elsewhere. Only if you know that Linklaters or Hogan Lovells is your dream firm where you ultimately want to spend your career, then might I consider delaying (although there could still be a good chance of ending up there later on). It also all depends on what kind of law you want to do. If your silver circle firm is Macfarlanes and you want to do private client work, then I would absolutely go there instead of Hogan Lovells or Linklaters even if the offers were all to start at the same time. Note that [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Circle_(law_firms)']the Wikipedia article about the Magic Circle[/URL] clarifies that Silver Circle firms often rank higher than Magic Circle firms in a range of areas and that the main difference is their more domestic focus as opposed to the MC's global focus - 'Contrary to what the term Silver Circle may suggest, there is no Golden Circle'. You will have excellent training at your Silver Circle firm and there is high liquidity in the associate market meaning that you could easily end up at a Magic Circle firm later on. Both Magic Circle and Silver Circle trainees often end up at US firms anyway! Considering the visa issue and the year delay (unless this could be a plus for you), in addition to the uncertainty of whether you will even get an offer, I would definitely begin your Silver Circle TC. On the other hand, I would not worry about the SQE consideration - everyone will be doing it next year so it really cannot pose that much uncertainty. Besides, one would hope that they are implementing it since it is better than the LPC... Finally, is it possible to do the interviews and simply not defer your current offer? You could then drop out if necessary, and I disagree with [USER=1245]@DT89[/USER] on the point about ethics because there is a reason that the SRA withdrew from the code of good practice in recruitment back in 2015... it is impossible to enforce and many firms choose not to uphold it. Ultimately, applicants have very little power in this process so it could be seen as unfair to ask them to uphold a recruitment code which firms do not. Congratulations again and do let us know what you decide :) [/QUOTE]
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