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<blockquote data-quote="Andrei Radu" data-source="post: 182519" data-attributes="member: 36777"><p>I actually did not make any winter scheme applications for this reason, but in retrospect I think this was a mistake. I ended up in this exact situation with one of the spring scheme offers I had (because of my own oversight, I had not realised the scheme was happening in the last week of my term). Fortunately, after a very long back-and forth email chain with graduate recruitment, I was fortunately able to join the scheme. Thus, just to add to [USER=2672]@Jessica Booker[/USER] great points here, whether you can be accommodated on the scheme will also depend on the following:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The length of the scheme: the primary reason I was eventually able to go on the scheme was because it was only one week long. Because of the limited time, the firm organised the scheme by having us sit for practice areas sessions/presentations for half of the day, and sit with our supervisors to get involved in work in the other half. As such, the graduate recruitment team concluded that I actually would not need to work more than 20 hours in total, which meant they could accommodate me on the scheme. However, for my other vacation schemes, which were all longer than a week, I definitely ended up working more than 20 hours. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The type of firm: generally, the larger the firm, the more will its recruitment process be highly-bureaucratic and strict on the rules. Smaller firms (and, anecdotally, US firms specifically) tend to be a bit more practical minded and solutions-oriented, and you may have a higher chance of convincing them to take a more flexible approach. Some flexible solutions they may be amenable to are the ones Jessica suggested - reducing the number of days you work or splitting them across two weeks. Alternatively, you could try to persuade them to allow you on the scheme, but only do 'actual work' for half of your time, and spend the rest on networking/learning activities. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The description of the vacation scheme: Some firms emphasize that they want the vacation scheme experience to have involve a lot of actual work and be as close as possible to your training contract experience. Other firms emphasize the learning aspect of the vacation scheme, or emphasize the assessment element for TC recruiting. It should generally be easier to convince the latter category to accommodate you. </li> </ul><p>Finally, for practical purposes, I would only contact graduate recruitment about this issue after you have received a VS offer. Firstly, there's not much point in engaging in a likely lengthy email back and forth to resolve a problem that might not even arise. Secondly, once the partners who interviewed you decide that you are good enough that they want to offer you a place, it is more likely that the firm will seek to find work-arounds the 20-hour cap. However, if you mention this at application stage, you are just giving the firm reasons to reject you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andrei Radu, post: 182519, member: 36777"] I actually did not make any winter scheme applications for this reason, but in retrospect I think this was a mistake. I ended up in this exact situation with one of the spring scheme offers I had (because of my own oversight, I had not realised the scheme was happening in the last week of my term). Fortunately, after a very long back-and forth email chain with graduate recruitment, I was fortunately able to join the scheme. Thus, just to add to [USER=2672]@Jessica Booker[/USER] great points here, whether you can be accommodated on the scheme will also depend on the following: [LIST] [*]The length of the scheme: the primary reason I was eventually able to go on the scheme was because it was only one week long. Because of the limited time, the firm organised the scheme by having us sit for practice areas sessions/presentations for half of the day, and sit with our supervisors to get involved in work in the other half. As such, the graduate recruitment team concluded that I actually would not need to work more than 20 hours in total, which meant they could accommodate me on the scheme. However, for my other vacation schemes, which were all longer than a week, I definitely ended up working more than 20 hours. [*]The type of firm: generally, the larger the firm, the more will its recruitment process be highly-bureaucratic and strict on the rules. Smaller firms (and, anecdotally, US firms specifically) tend to be a bit more practical minded and solutions-oriented, and you may have a higher chance of convincing them to take a more flexible approach. Some flexible solutions they may be amenable to are the ones Jessica suggested - reducing the number of days you work or splitting them across two weeks. Alternatively, you could try to persuade them to allow you on the scheme, but only do 'actual work' for half of your time, and spend the rest on networking/learning activities. [*]The description of the vacation scheme: Some firms emphasize that they want the vacation scheme experience to have involve a lot of actual work and be as close as possible to your training contract experience. Other firms emphasize the learning aspect of the vacation scheme, or emphasize the assessment element for TC recruiting. It should generally be easier to convince the latter category to accommodate you. [/LIST] Finally, for practical purposes, I would only contact graduate recruitment about this issue after you have received a VS offer. Firstly, there's not much point in engaging in a likely lengthy email back and forth to resolve a problem that might not even arise. Secondly, once the partners who interviewed you decide that you are good enough that they want to offer you a place, it is more likely that the firm will seek to find work-arounds the 20-hour cap. However, if you mention this at application stage, you are just giving the firm reasons to reject you. [/QUOTE]
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