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Whats up with the lack of Guys and POC in AC's?
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<blockquote data-quote="summer207" data-source="post: 78844" data-attributes="member: 9999"><p>I understand that focusing aspects of recruitment on people of a lower socioeconomic background is very important but I need to point out some issues with what you’ve said. This is not an attack in any way but hopefully, it helps you understand:</p><p></p><p>“Ethnicity is not the problem. Social and economic background is the real issue” - what does this mean? If your concern is socioeconomic backgrounds, it is evident that that’s your specific focus and definitely does not account for diversity as a whole. I’m not particularly sure how hiring black, etc, candidates from a higher socioeconomic background is making “the problem” worse. Is there a lack of representation for lower socioeconomic backgrounds regardless of ethnicity? Yes. But you can’t identify that as being the only issue when diversity is multi-dimensional. There’s many issues to address from socioeconomic backgrounds to those with neurodiverse conditions as well as disabilities. It really isn’t a game of ‘who has it worse?’.</p><p></p><p>“... I do not agree with the way the firms are dealing with these issues”. What is the issue? There’s isn’t only one. If the issue is a lack of representation of black people in a firm and that firm starts to make an effort to recruit and retain black talent, then they are dealing with that specific issue. If the issue is a lack of representation of people from socioeconomic backgrounds and the firm hasn’t done enough? Then they need to focus on that also. I’m just not sure how you concluded that doing something else for another issue is making another issue worse, when the actual concern should be not enough has been done for the latter issue.</p><p></p><p>I’ve had conversations with associates who’ve worked in firms that didn’t create a conducive working environment for people of black heritage. If that firm was doing more for people of south Asian heritage, I’m not going to say that it is making the initial issue worse. So, if your concern is that the recruitment processes of firms should be doing more for people from a lower socioeconomic background, then make that point without somehow trying to insinuate that recruiting black and other ethnic minorities has somehow “made it worse”. Just to end, oppression in different forms is not some sort of competition. There’s still a lot to be done in different strands of diversity and inclusion, some law firms have done more for some issues than others, some haven’t done enough for any.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully, that helps you understand.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="summer207, post: 78844, member: 9999"] I understand that focusing aspects of recruitment on people of a lower socioeconomic background is very important but I need to point out some issues with what you’ve said. This is not an attack in any way but hopefully, it helps you understand: “Ethnicity is not the problem. Social and economic background is the real issue” - what does this mean? If your concern is socioeconomic backgrounds, it is evident that that’s your specific focus and definitely does not account for diversity as a whole. I’m not particularly sure how hiring black, etc, candidates from a higher socioeconomic background is making “the problem” worse. Is there a lack of representation for lower socioeconomic backgrounds regardless of ethnicity? Yes. But you can’t identify that as being the only issue when diversity is multi-dimensional. There’s many issues to address from socioeconomic backgrounds to those with neurodiverse conditions as well as disabilities. It really isn’t a game of ‘who has it worse?’. “... I do not agree with the way the firms are dealing with these issues”. What is the issue? There’s isn’t only one. If the issue is a lack of representation of black people in a firm and that firm starts to make an effort to recruit and retain black talent, then they are dealing with that specific issue. If the issue is a lack of representation of people from socioeconomic backgrounds and the firm hasn’t done enough? Then they need to focus on that also. I’m just not sure how you concluded that doing something else for another issue is making another issue worse, when the actual concern should be not enough has been done for the latter issue. I’ve had conversations with associates who’ve worked in firms that didn’t create a conducive working environment for people of black heritage. If that firm was doing more for people of south Asian heritage, I’m not going to say that it is making the initial issue worse. So, if your concern is that the recruitment processes of firms should be doing more for people from a lower socioeconomic background, then make that point without somehow trying to insinuate that recruiting black and other ethnic minorities has somehow “made it worse”. Just to end, oppression in different forms is not some sort of competition. There’s still a lot to be done in different strands of diversity and inclusion, some law firms have done more for some issues than others, some haven’t done enough for any. Hopefully, that helps you understand. [/QUOTE]
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