TCLA Direct Training Contract Applications Discussion Thread 2023-4

[starbright]

Call them first. It will be far better to speak to someone than rely on email and you can have a reasonable conversation regarding it.

When you then follow up with an email, you just have to state you are withdrawing your acceptance for Job Title to start date TC starts.

Thanks Jess - do I need to provide a lot of detail in the phone call?

 

[Deleted member 31571]

I just sent HFW in, how rolling are they? Considering that there is more than a week left til DL

 

[Cara888]

Has anyone heard back from wfw yet ?

 

[Gday33]

I just sent HFW in, how rolling are they? Considering that there is more than a week left til DL

Haven’t heard anything and applied a few months ago so possibly not rolling

 

[TCLA Community Assistant]

Thanks Jess - do I need to provide a lot of detail in the phone call?

No - you just need to be prepared for them to ask which firm you will be joining and/or what might have made you select that firm over them. You don’t have to provide them with this information up front, but they may ask you.

 

[EzeLaylor]

Sullcrom anyone?? I heard that some people are getting holding emails

 

[FTS209990]

No - you just need to be prepared for them to ask which firm you will be joining and/or what might have made you select that firm over them. You don’t have to provide them with this information up front, but they may ask you.

Is there any chance the firm could cause issues when reneging the offer? Or is there no benefit for them to do so?

 

[TCLA Community Assistant]

Is there any chance the firm could cause issues when reneging the offer? Or is there no benefit for them to do so?

it’s technically breach of contract and so they could pursue you for that.

But the reality is there is no value in them doing so. They can find a replacement at little/no additional cost to them and the process of seeking costs from you would be far too time consuming and costly for them compared to any value they could ever get from you. It’s why employers don’t do this. About 8% of law graduate offers are reneged each year, and all that happens is they renege - they move on and so does the firm they reneged on.

 

[jhboub]

re final offers: do they have to fill in the spaces? what if the candidate rejects the offer? im assuming they will give it to the next candidate but ive also been told everyone will find out if they got it on the same day..

 

[FTS209990]

it’s technically breach of contract and so they could pursue you for that.

But the reality is there is no value in them doing so. They can find a replacement at little/no additional cost to them and the process of seeking costs from you would be far too time consuming and costly for them compared to any value they could ever get from you. It’s why employers don’t do this. About 8% of law graduate offers are reneged each year, and all that happens is they renege - they move on and so does the firm they reneged on.

Thank you Jessica, that’s reassuring

 

[TCLA Community Assistant]

re final offers: do they have to fill in the spaces? what if the candidate rejects the offer? im assuming they will give it to the next candidate but ive also been told everyone will find out if they got it on the same day..

No - they don’t have to fill all the spaces. Because of the time lag it’s easy for them to make later offers, even in the next cycle if needed. But some firms operate reserve candidate lists or keep candidates on hold while they wait back to hear from candidates accepting or declining.

 

[starbright]

No - you just need to be prepared for them to ask which firm you will be joining and/or what might have made you select that firm over them. You don’t have to provide them with this information up front, but they may ask you.

I see - thank you!

 

[Deleted member 31571]

Does White & Case have the deadline for their direct TC tomorrow at midnight or earlier?

 

[futuretraineesolicitor]

Hey - Can someone who has completed Allen & Overy Application last cycle for VS or TC, please share insights into the video interview questions that is part of the assessment? I believe A&O Shearman also has the same application format coming up for the next cycle. Thank you!

there was unltd time to practice is all i remember

 

[sunnyd]

Any advice for the Wedlake Bell TC interview and written assessment? So nervous and not too sure what to expect! 😭

 

[mdoeslaw]

might be a rlly silly q but I did a tc ac recently, they only give like 6 tcs and they told us we should hear back next week but someone already heard back this week w an offer, so do they usually space giving offers out or would it be possible they would've given all the offers out within that time frame (ac was on wed, then thurs and fri)? ik its only 6 tc places so cant be a lot of calls to make

@Jessica Booker would love to know your thoughts? im rlly overthinking it ahaha

 

[Filia]

Has anyone heard back from Marriott Harrison after their VS ended? And if so, how soon did you hear back?

 

[leaaa2023]

Hi all and @Jessica Booker; White & Case say they recruit 80% of trainees from their VS. I am wondering if I should apply to direct TC route or just wait til applications open up for VSs in October. I am a career changer, have 5+ years as a paralegal, and attending a Russell Group uni; but am wondering if I should wait and potentially increase my chances.. That would give me time to attend more events with W&C and increase my chances by just applying to the VS in October. Because if I rush and apply now and get rejected, that could likely affect my chances of getting a VS?
Thoughts? thanks!

 

[TCLA Community Assistant]

Hi all and @Jessica Booker; White & Case say they recruit 80% of trainees from their VS. I am wondering if I should apply to direct TC route or just wait til applications open up for VSs in October. I am a career changer, have 5+ years as a paralegal, and attending a Russell Group uni; but am wondering if I should wait and potentially increase my chances.. That would give me time to attend more events with W&C and increase my chances by just applying to the VS in October. Because if I rush and apply now and get rejected, that could likely affect my chances of getting a VS?
Thoughts? thanks!

You could wait, but that will then be for a later recruitment cycle (most likely starting in 2027/2028 rather than 2026/27. So a big question would be if you are willing to wait that additional year?

I am also not sure what the firm's reapplying policy is. If it is that you can apply once per recruitment cycle, then you could apply now and then in the Autumn (and I don't think there is any disadvantage if that is the case). It is only if you can only reapply within a period of time (say 6-12 months) then it would potentially be worthwhile waiting.

 

[desperateTCseeker1998]

Does anyone know White and Case's reapplying policy? Can't find it anywhere and too late to email and ask now. I know less people are hired through the direct route so wondering whether I should wait and apply for Winter VS instead? But they will be in two different cycles so I imagine its fine? Just a question of whether they're a weird firm that has a 12 month rule instead of a cycle rule