• WIN: Lunch with Willkie Trainees!
    15 Oct 2025 5:00 pm – 6:00 pm (UK) Zoom (registration required)
    Put your knowledge of Willkie Farr & Gallagher to the test in this interactive quiz session. The winner will enjoy lunch with Willkie trainees!
    Register on Zoom →

Road to a TC 2025-26

DavidJC

Esteemed Member
Dec 29, 2019
90
192
After mulling it over for the last couple of weeks, I've decided to start a thread here to try and hold myself accountable and maybe get to know others in the TCLA community this way. I also want to share my experiences going down this challenging career path in the hopes that it might inspire others just as others' stories have inspired me. I did a wee introduction in the other sub-forum last week but I will share some extra, and I believe, relevant details here.

I graduated in 2020 with a 2:1 Scots Law degree, which is four years long and considered non-law in England & Wales. My university uses a unique grading system, and they've issued official guidance that it should not and cannot be adequately converted into a percentage scoring system, giving me plenty of headaches😄.

Anyway, only certain courses in 3rd and 4th Year counted for my degree classification, and, as far as I can reasonably convert my grades, I have several 2:2 modules and even two 3rd modules throughout the four years. It doesn't help that I had no awareness of the concept of extenuating circumstances back then either, and had always accepted that my grades were me reaping what I had sown, but I now know better and try to make points about extenuating circumstances in my applications.

This has been a source of frustration over concerns about my eligibility for many VSs and TCs, but I've finally accepted that I can't change these grades. I can only look ahead and sell my other experiences. I didn't do much in terms of extracurriculars during university either because I lived at home and had my main interests in cooperative online video games. Video games have given me invaluable transferable skills such as teamwork, organisation, resilience, communication, conflict resolution, and learning. I think it's always difficult to sell video games as a source of transferable skills but I'll break a glass ceiling here if I have to.

I have also since worked outside of law, volunteered locally, and tried to improve myself in other aspects since my last application cycle in 2019-20. It is now up to me to present the skills and experiences that I do have as best I can in my written applications.

As of today, I'm having some friends and family help review my cover letter for NRF's WVS ahead of tomorrow's deadline (thank god they're non-rolling), and I have attended a series of virtual events both open-access and through applications. As this will be my first VS/TC application of the cycle, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for it.

In the weeks ahead, I'm looking to apply for Open Days and VSs with mostly US firms as I sincerely believe deep down, after a lot of reflection, that they have the best cultural fit for me, in spite of my subpar grades and extracurriculars.

And just to end this post on a small win (I wouldn't have said this five years ago, but I think the small wins should be celebrated), my application for Skadden's Open Day was accepted and I'm actually quite excited for it!

Thank you for reading up to this point as it's a lot and please look forward to the next update!
 
  • Like
  • 🤝
Reactions: ZNadeem and Abbie Whitlock

Abbie Whitlock

Administrator
Staff member
Gold Member
Premium Member
Sep 11, 2025
182
149
After mulling it over for the last couple of weeks, I've decided to start a thread here to try and hold myself accountable and maybe get to know others in the TCLA community this way. I also want to share my experiences going down this challenging career path in the hopes that it might inspire others just as others' stories have inspired me. I did a wee introduction in the other sub-forum last week but I will share some extra, and I believe, relevant details here.

I graduated in 2020 with a 2:1 Scots Law degree, which is four years long and considered non-law in England & Wales. My university uses a unique grading system, and they've issued official guidance that it should not and cannot be adequately converted into a percentage scoring system, giving me plenty of headaches😄.

Anyway, only certain courses in 3rd and 4th Year counted for my degree classification, and, as far as I can reasonably convert my grades, I have several 2:2 modules and even two 3rd modules throughout the four years. It doesn't help that I had no awareness of the concept of extenuating circumstances back then either, and had always accepted that my grades were me reaping what I had sown, but I now know better and try to make points about extenuating circumstances in my applications.

This has been a source of frustration over concerns about my eligibility for many VSs and TCs, but I've finally accepted that I can't change these grades. I can only look ahead and sell my other experiences. I didn't do much in terms of extracurriculars during university either because I lived at home and had my main interests in cooperative online video games. Video games have given me invaluable transferable skills such as teamwork, organisation, resilience, communication, conflict resolution, and learning. I think it's always difficult to sell video games as a source of transferable skills but I'll break a glass ceiling here if I have to.

I have also since worked outside of law, volunteered locally, and tried to improve myself in other aspects since my last application cycle in 2019-20. It is now up to me to present the skills and experiences that I do have as best I can in my written applications.

As of today, I'm having some friends and family help review my cover letter for NRF's WVS ahead of tomorrow's deadline (thank god they're non-rolling), and I have attended a series of virtual events both open-access and through applications. As this will be my first VS/TC application of the cycle, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for it.

In the weeks ahead, I'm looking to apply for Open Days and VSs with mostly US firms as I sincerely believe deep down, after a lot of reflection, that they have the best cultural fit for me, in spite of my subpar grades and extracurriculars.

And just to end this post on a small win (I wouldn't have said this five years ago, but I think the small wins should be celebrated), my application for Skadden's Open Day was accepted and I'm actually quite excited for it!

Thank you for reading up to this point as it's a lot and please look forward to the next update!
Hello!

Thank you for sharing this, and I think a thread will be a great way of holding yourself accountable! It takes a lot of courage to put your story out there so openly, and I think that mindset of focusing on what you can control rather than grades is a really useful shift!

I can really relate to a lot of what you've said - I graduated from a relatively low-ranking non-Russell group university, and many online forums (not TCLA!) made it seem like I was doomed to ever enter corporate law. I think the main thing that changed in my successful cycle was my mindset - I'd do it despite the perceived barriers! I'm really glad to hear that you are approaching it the same way, as your mindset is such an important element that many applicants overlook.

Huge congratulations on getting accepted onto Skadden's Open Day - that's such a brilliant achievement, and definitely worth celebrating :) Open Day applications are so competitive, and it shows that firms do see the potential in you! I hope you enjoy the day, and make the most of it!

I also love what you said about video games - I'm an avid online gamer myself, and I think it is absolutely right that they teach skills like teamwork, communication, and resilience. The way you have framed it is really unique, and I think it makes your profile stand out in a good way.

Best of luck with NRF's WVS application - I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you! Looking forward to following along with your updates and cheering you on this cycle!
 

CharlesT47

Star Member
Gold Member
Premium Member
Jun 30, 2025
33
12
After mulling it over for the last couple of weeks, I've decided to start a thread here to try and hold myself accountable and maybe get to know others in the TCLA community this way. I also want to share my experiences going down this challenging career path in the hopes that it might inspire others just as others' stories have inspired me. I did a wee introduction in the other sub-forum last week but I will share some extra, and I believe, relevant details here.

I graduated in 2020 with a 2:1 Scots Law degree, which is four years long and considered non-law in England & Wales. My university uses a unique grading system, and they've issued official guidance that it should not and cannot be adequately converted into a percentage scoring system, giving me plenty of headaches😄.

Anyway, only certain courses in 3rd and 4th Year counted for my degree classification, and, as far as I can reasonably convert my grades, I have several 2:2 modules and even two 3rd modules throughout the four years. It doesn't help that I had no awareness of the concept of extenuating circumstances back then either, and had always accepted that my grades were me reaping what I had sown, but I now know better and try to make points about extenuating circumstances in my applications.

This has been a source of frustration over concerns about my eligibility for many VSs and TCs, but I've finally accepted that I can't change these grades. I can only look ahead and sell my other experiences. I didn't do much in terms of extracurriculars during university either because I lived at home and had my main interests in cooperative online video games. Video games have given me invaluable transferable skills such as teamwork, organisation, resilience, communication, conflict resolution, and learning. I think it's always difficult to sell video games as a source of transferable skills but I'll break a glass ceiling here if I have to.

I have also since worked outside of law, volunteered locally, and tried to improve myself in other aspects since my last application cycle in 2019-20. It is now up to me to present the skills and experiences that I do have as best I can in my written applications.

As of today, I'm having some friends and family help review my cover letter for NRF's WVS ahead of tomorrow's deadline (thank god they're non-rolling), and I have attended a series of virtual events both open-access and through applications. As this will be my first VS/TC application of the cycle, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for it.

In the weeks ahead, I'm looking to apply for Open Days and VSs with mostly US firms as I sincerely believe deep down, after a lot of reflection, that they have the best cultural fit for me, in spite of my subpar grades and extracurriculars.

And just to end this post on a small win (I wouldn't have said this five years ago, but I think the small wins should be celebrated), my application for Skadden's Open Day was accepted and I'm actually quite excited for it!

Thank you for reading up to this point as it's a lot and please look forward to the next update!
Hey David Congrats on the open day! I am curious-- do you know whether the applications for Skadden Open Days are rolling? Additionally, how many words did you write?
 

DavidJC

Esteemed Member
Dec 29, 2019
90
192
Hello!

Thank you for sharing this, and I think a thread will be a great way of holding yourself accountable! It takes a lot of courage to put your story out there so openly, and I think that mindset of focusing on what you can control rather than grades is a really useful shift!

I can really relate to a lot of what you've said - I graduated from a relatively low-ranking non-Russell group university, and many online forums (not TCLA!) made it seem like I was doomed to ever enter corporate law. I think the main thing that changed in my successful cycle was my mindset - I'd do it despite the perceived barriers! I'm really glad to hear that you are approaching it the same way, as your mindset is such an important element that many applicants overlook.

Huge congratulations on getting accepted onto Skadden's Open Day - that's such a brilliant achievement, and definitely worth celebrating :) Open Day applications are so competitive, and it shows that firms do see the potential in you! I hope you enjoy the day, and make the most of it!

I also love what you said about video games - I'm an avid online gamer myself, and I think it is absolutely right that they teach skills like teamwork, communication, and resilience. The way you have framed it is really unique, and I think it makes your profile stand out in a good way.

Best of luck with NRF's WVS application - I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you! Looking forward to following along with your updates and cheering you on this cycle!
Hi Abbie, thanks so much for your kind words and all the helpful advice and encouragement you've been giving out throughout the forum, keeping my fingers crossed too!
 
  • 🤝
Reactions: Abbie Whitlock

DavidJC

Esteemed Member
Dec 29, 2019
90
192
Hey David Congrats on the open day! I am curious-- do you know whether the applications for Skadden Open Days are rolling? Additionally, how many words did you write?
Hi, thanks! I'm afraid I'm not sure if they're rolling but I submitted my application the day before the deadline for the upcoming Open Day and I wrote 264 words so keeping it kinda close to 250 but also within 300 since they are quite standard. Hope that helps and good luck!
 

DavidJC

Esteemed Member
Dec 29, 2019
90
192
Figured the time is ripe for an update. I have some regrets this week about my time management but I'm sure it'll get easier as I practise writing more and better applications (I can already see some improvements).

As of today, I have submitted applications for NRF's WVS, HSF Kramer's WVS, and a Davis Polk Insight Day application.
I have plans to apply for the Open/Insight Days at Latham & Watkins, Mayer Brown, Weil, and Cooley next before likely moving onto VS applications only.
I've also got the Aspiring Solicitors Commercial Awareness Competition coming up this month so I'm looking forward to that as a separate route to a VS/TC and am aiming to do my best in it! Hopefully nothing will catch me off guard there as I think commercial awareness is the one thing I think I've consistently continued honing through the five year gap since my last application cycle.

In terms of online assessments, despite my affinity for games, I'm not the biggest fan of "gamified" assessments, especially a couple of the options offered by Arctic Shores which are used by NRF. I think the Arrows/Directions one is especially egregious in its goal of testing your focus and attention to detail but it flashes you with a "late" "slow" or "wrong" every time you make an error, making it rather counterintuitive, in my opinion. I've taken these tests before when I applied for a role with Rathbones last year and also a paralegal role with NRF back in April. I think the Emotional Recognition test has somehow gotten worse than before as it didn't feel quite as bad the last time I did it.

Anyway, I'm planning to complete the HSF Kramer assessment this weekend when I'm more well-rested and also hopefully submit a strong application for Latham's Open Day. then get started on the remaining three.

In terms of subsequent applications, I've got Hogan Lovells Lift Off (I think there's nothing to lose here even if they're not exactly my preferred type of firm in terms of intake size and well-known practice areas), Freshfields DTC and A&OS DTC in mind, again noting that none of these really fit my preferred firm criteria but as the MC firms have moved away from application questions to SJTs, I'll happily keep my fingers crossed to see if those work out.

It's virtually guaranteed that I'll apply for VSs with the firms whose Open Days I'm applying to (unless something really rubs me the wrong way), and I'll happily include White & Case too cos I think they have a unique offering with a rather large intake size but apparently still keeping the US work culture, and it helps that they're strong in a couple of my key areas of interest (Banking & Finance, Capital Markets).

I'll revisit my focus afterwards, but I'm honestly just glad to be done with WVS applications unless something (like having a positive experience with Cleary at the LC Virtual Law Fair) really tickles my fancy.

P.S. I dare hope that someday application season won't be so heavily focussed in the autumn along with everything else (PGDL's been challenging so far and pro bono opportunities are finally getting started)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Abbie Whitlock

Abbie Whitlock

Administrator
Staff member
Gold Member
Premium Member
Sep 11, 2025
182
149
Figured the time is ripe for an update. I have some regrets this week about my time management but I'm sure it'll get easier as I practise writing more and better applications (I can already see some improvements).

As of today, I have submitted applications for NRF's WVS, HSF Kramer's WVS, and a Davis Polk Insight Day application.
I have plans to apply for the Open/Insight Days at Latham & Watkins, Mayer Brown, Weil, and Cooley next before likely moving onto VS applications only.
I've also got the Aspiring Solicitors Commercial Awareness Competition coming up this month so I'm looking forward to that as a separate route to a VS/TC and am aiming to do my best in it! Hopefully nothing will catch me off guard there as I think commercial awareness is the one thing I think I've consistently continued honing through the five year gap since my last application cycle.

In terms of online assessments, despite my affinity for games, I'm not the biggest fan of "gamified" assessments, especially a couple of the options offered by Arctic Shores which are used by NRF. I think the Arrows/Directions one is especially egregious in its goal of testing your focus and attention to detail but it flashes you with a "late" "slow" or "wrong" every time you make an error, making it rather counterintuitive, in my opinion. I've taken these tests before when I applied for a role with Rathbones last year and also a paralegal role with NRF back in April. I think the Emotional Recognition test has somehow gotten worse than before as it didn't feel quite as bad the last time I did it.

Anyway, I'm planning to complete the HSF Kramer assessment this weekend when I'm more well-rested and also hopefully submit a strong application for Latham's Open Day. then get started on the remaining three.

In terms of subsequent applications, I've got Hogan Lovells Lift Off (I think there's nothing to lose here even if they're not exactly my preferred type of firm in terms of intake size and well-known practice areas), Freshfields DTC and A&OS DTC in mind, again noting that none of these really fit my preferred firm criteria but as the MC firms have moved away from application questions to SJTs, I'll happily keep my fingers crossed to see if those work out.

It's virtually guaranteed that I'll apply for VSs with the firms whose Open Days I'm applying to (unless something really rubs me the wrong way), and I'll happily include White & Case too cos I think they have a unique offering with a rather large intake size but apparently still keeping the US work culture, and it helps that they're strong in a couple of my key areas of interest (Banking & Finance, Capital Markets).

I'll revisit my focus afterwards, but I'm honestly just glad to be done with WVS applications unless something (like having a positive experience with Cleary at the LC Virtual Law Fair) really tickles my fancy.

P.S. I dare hope that someday application season won't be so heavily focussed in the autumn along with everything else (PGDL's been challenging so far and pro bono opportunities are finally getting started)
Hi!

Sounds like you've made really solid progress already, and it's great that you are spotting improvements in your applications as you go along. I totally agree with you on the gamified assessments point - they can definitely feel quite frustrating, so it's smart that you're timing them for when you're well-rested. Best of luck with the HSF Kramer assessment and the Latham application this weekend!

It also sounds like you have a good strategy lined up with the mix of open days, VS applications, and the Commercial Awareness Competition! I was the runner-up in the BIUCAC competition last year, and it really did wonders for my application cycle, so I think that's a really great opportunity to make the most of :)

Fingers crossed that you receive good news soon, and I hope the PGDL / pro bono balance gets a bit easier as things settle in.

I look forward to seeing more updates soon!
 
  • 🤝
Reactions: DavidJC

DavidJC

Esteemed Member
Dec 29, 2019
90
192
Thought I'd drop a quick update in since I had some time and some news.

I've passed the benchmark for the HSF Kramer Online Assessment so hopefully all goes well now!

I've also just realised that I have another 12 hours or so to do the Latham online tests and I'm quite busy until around 9pm today so I guess I will have to just dive into that, hopefully nothing too challenging on that end!

I've just done the preliminary online round for the Aspiring Solicitors CAC and that was more challenging than I thought it'd be, helping me recognise some areas of the commercial world where I'm not nearly as knowledgeable but hopefully it was enough to progress to the next round. To be fair, they did say each person would get a random set of questions and for all I know, someone else may have gotten a set of questions that I knew all the answers to in contrast with the set of questions I got, and that's just how life goes sometimes!

Lastly, I think I've more or less got my Mayer Brown Open Day application sorted, so I should submit that soon.

Also looking forward to a presentation evening with Travers Smith tonight and I'm really excited for the Open Evening at Skadden tomorrow!
 

Abbie Whitlock

Administrator
Staff member
Gold Member
Premium Member
Sep 11, 2025
182
149
Thought I'd drop a quick update in since I had some time and some news.

I've passed the benchmark for the HSF Kramer Online Assessment so hopefully all goes well now!

I've also just realised that I have another 12 hours or so to do the Latham online tests and I'm quite busy until around 9pm today so I guess I will have to just dive into that, hopefully nothing too challenging on that end!

I've just done the preliminary online round for the Aspiring Solicitors CAC and that was more challenging than I thought it'd be, helping me recognise some areas of the commercial world where I'm not nearly as knowledgeable but hopefully it was enough to progress to the next round. To be fair, they did say each person would get a random set of questions and for all I know, someone else may have gotten a set of questions that I knew all the answers to in contrast with the set of questions I got, and that's just how life goes sometimes!

Lastly, I think I've more or less got my Mayer Brown Open Day application sorted, so I should submit that soon.

Also looking forward to a presentation evening with Travers Smith tonight and I'm really excited for the Open Evening at Skadden tomorrow!
Hello!

Thank you for the update - sounds like you have had a very productive (and busy!) week, so well done for keeping on top of things! Huge congratulations on passing the HSF Kramer benchmark - that’s a great step forward, and fingers crossed for the next stage!

I hope the Latham tests went smoothly in the end despite the tight timing, and I would try not to stress too much about the AS CAC round! Like you said, the random question sets can really make a difference. I competed in BIUCAC last year where the first few rounds follow a similar format to the AS competition, and I remember feeling particularly lost in the preliminary rounds - sometimes you end up doing much better than you think!

I hope the Travers Smith presentation went well, and best of luck at the Skadden open evening today! I bet it will be a relief to submit the Mayer Brown open day application too - sounds like you’re making great progress all around! 😁
 
  • 🤝
Reactions: DavidJC

About Us

The Corporate Law Academy (TCLA) was founded in 2018 because we wanted to improve the legal journey. We wanted more transparency and better training. We wanted to form a community of aspiring lawyers who care about becoming the best version of themselves.

Newsletter

Discover the most relevant business news, access our law firm analysis, and receive our best advice for aspiring lawyers.