Congrats! Is it just an SJT or does it include the written assessment? Trying to work out if it’s automatic or screenedDechert test! Applied on the 8th iirc if it helps anyone
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Congrats! Is it just an SJT or does it include the written assessment? Trying to work out if it’s automatic or screenedDechert test! Applied on the 8th iirc if it helps anyone
It’s definitely screenedCongrats! Is it just an SJT or does it include the written assessment? Trying to work out if it’s automatic or screened
ThanksIt’s definitely screened
It involves a critical reasoning test and a written exerciseCongrats! Is it just an SJT or does it include the written assessment? Trying to work out if it’s automatic or screened
It’s got a written assessment too. From just meeting the firm at a law fair, I think they said that they screen your grades and work experience before sending the testCongrats! Is it just an SJT or does it include the written assessment? Trying to work out if it’s automatic or screened
Firms are inundated with applicants nowadays so it's an easy way for them to screen out large amountsWhat's happened the past few years? It seems there's a trend for law firms to be much stricter on modular consistency; I mean six years ago even HSF just said they prefer a 2:1 overall.
I think it depends tbh, hsfk have been very unique in their shift but it seems to be a heavy influence from the US law firm merger. I see firms putting emphasis on work experience a lotWhat's happened the past few years? It seems there's a trend for law firms to be much stricter on modular consistency; I mean six years ago even HSF just said they prefer a 2:1 overall.
I think firms are just inundated with applications so have to make requirements tighter where possible. I was invited to an HSF open day in 2023 and I defo didn’t meet the 63% in every module requirement, I think I had one or two modules off. I also didn’t meet the AAB requirement. I think also pinsent masons have increased their requirements to ABB now. It used to be BBB.What's happened the past few years? It seems there's a trend for law firms to be much stricter on modular consistency; I mean six years ago even HSF just said they prefer a 2:1 overall.
Last cycle, I heard back the next day!Does anyone know how quickly after the first round interview Jones Day responds?
Hi – that's a really good question. My overall answer is that it depends entirely on the firm, but it sounds like you have strong academics and are likely to do well!Hi! I had a question about how law firms are likely to view my grades, particularly firms that place a lot of emphasis on academics.
I graduated from a top-3 UK university with a First, despite fairly severe mitigating circumstances throughout my undergraduate degree. My first-year average was 65; I did receive one 2:2 that year, but it was not counted towards my average because the university used a best-of-four system. In second year, I averaged 65, with one First, two 63s and one 2:2. In third year, I averaged 69, with five Firsts. My overall undergraduate average was 67.
I then completed the PGDL and averaged 81%, with no mitigating circumstances during that course.
For firms that are particularly focused on academics, would you say my grades should generally be fine given that I graduated with a First and an overall average of 67, alongside the mitigating circumstances, clear upward trajectory and 81% PGDL result?
I also received an assessment centre invitation from Ropes & Gray, which I understand places quite a lot of weight on academics, so I’m not sure how concerned I should realistically be about this.
@Antoni Trochimowicz
Thanks, that’s really helpful. Just to clarify, do you think I could still be automatically screened out by a grades-focused firm despite graduating with a First from LSE?Hi – that's a really good question. My overall answer is that it depends entirely on the firm, but it sounds like you have strong academics and are likely to do well!
Some firms are more interested in your composite score across your degree and are willing to grant you a little more leeway if you attended a top university, provided that you did not fail any modules. However, some firms assess candidates purely on grades (like Linklaters) and might automatically screen you out at the application stage. If you have made it to the VI stage/non-automated assessment stage with a firm that seems to have high grade requirements, I wouldn't worry – they've likely seen your grades and are happy with them!
I would emphasise that it is always important to alert firms to mitigating circumstances, as they are often willing to review applications on a case-by-case basis. I know of a trainee who failed one of his final-year exams while completing his vacation scheme but was still ultimately offered a training contract by a firm that has a strict 2:1 policy! Good grades matter, but a single 2:2 doesn't automatically remove you from the candidate pool at firms with a 2:1 minimum. I highly recommend attending networking events and speaking to graduate recruitment face-to-face to better understand their requirements, as firm websites sometimes list outdated grade requirements or don't explain how they evaluate mitigating circumstances.
Best of luck, and congratulations on the Ropes & Gray AC!
Hi again!Thanks, that’s really helpful. Just to clarify, do you think I could still be automatically screened out by a grades-focused firm despite graduating with a First from LSE?
I only had two 2:2 module marks across 16 modules in total, and one of those was not counted towards my year average under LSE’s best-of-four system. I also had significant mitigating circumstances during my undergraduate degree.
Would firms that assess grades strictly usually take those mitigating circumstances and the overall First into account, or could the two individual 2:2s still be enough to trigger an automatic rejection?
Hi – congratulations on reaching the interview stage! If you're referring to the pre-AC online interview, you should hear back within 1- 2 working days. Best of luck!Does anyone know how quickly after the first round interview Jones Day responds?