TCLA Direct Training Contract Applications Discussion Thread 2024-5

[Harvey Specter]

My Stephenson Harwood test result is:

Verbal medium
Numerical medium

Grit 6/9
Applied intellect 7/9
Creative force 4/9
Digital mindset 9/9

I used to score high for both verbal & numerical and had 6 or above for the 4 areas 😭 please don't throw me out because of the 4/9

I think they assess the SJT + VI together so it’s possible someone with a ‘low’ test score but a ‘strong’ VI could still progress. If someone had a ‘high’ test score but a ‘weak’ VI, they might also progress to the next stage. 😀

If I remember correctly, I got 8766 for the test, which is 27/36. Your score adds up to 26/36 so it’s basically the same difference. I think I got middle for verbal and high for numerical for the reasoning sections of the test too. 😅

I’m sure you will be fine, especially as digital mindset is 9/9 (super impressive)! In any case, the benchmarks and criteria firms use will vary depending on what they prioritise. Best of luck for your SH DTC application.​

 

[InterestInPublicLaw]

I'm cooked then. I cannot express the words as to what a joke this is. 3x 600 word application questions to be rejected by SJT which is just luck. And why bother make us to the VI if we have already failed the test. Complete joke.

I have a different interpretation of the email - it may suggest the overall score include the scores for the video interview so I wouldn’t lose hope! It’s not one of the firms that specify, for example, you’ll need to pass the online test for your initial written application to be read.

 

[BillSikes]

I have a different interpretation of the email - it may suggest the overall score include the scores for the video interview so I wouldn’t lose hope! It’s not one of the firms that specify, for example, you’ll need to pass the online test for your initial written application to be read.

I'm cooked if they include the VI also!!! 🤣

 

[shays]

That’s again reassuring 🥹 and who knows their benchmark perhaps you’re good enough!

thanks for the support but doubt that as I had 1/9 on grit???? idk how bc I even talked about the determination and resilience in my VI lmao plus I thought I know how to answer but apparently nope so my grit is not going to push me forward

 

[InterestInPublicLaw]

I think they assess the SJT + VI together so it’s possible someone with a ‘low’ test score but a ‘strong’ VI could still progress. If someone had a ‘high’ test score but a ‘weak’ VI, they might also progress to the next stage. 😀

If I remember correctly, I got 8766 for the test, which is 27/36. Your score adds up to 26/36 so it’s basically the same difference. I think I got middle for verbal and high for numerical for the reasoning sections of the test too. 😅

I’m sure you will be fine, especially as digital mindset is 9/9 (super impressive)! In any case, the benchmarks and criteria firms use will vary depending on what they prioritise. Best of luck for your SH DTC application.​

Thank you so much! Congratulations for your TC offer and appreciate you still checking the forum and helping us with our questions!

 

[RS Sanjanaa]

If anyone has insights on White and Case AC, please let me know! Thank you

 

[InterestInPublicLaw]

thanks for the support but doubt that as I had 1/9 on grit???? idk how bc I even talked about the determination and resilience in my VI lmao plus I thought I know how to answer but apparently nope so my grit is not going to push me forward

The test report is automatic, your VI response doesn’t affect the score

 

[shays]

The test report is automatic, your VI response doesn’t affect the score

i know, i'm just saying it's funny my responses indicated that when i talked about it in my answers as i expected i'd have that the highest? if that makes sense, sorry my brain is cooked

 

[InterestInPublicLaw]

i know, i'm just saying it's funny my responses indicated that when i talked about it in my answers as i expected i'd have that the highest? if that makes sense, sorry my brain is cooked

Ah I see, no worries at all. Not sure if that’s helpful -but i would study the feedback and see what actions they recommend and consider them in your next test (whether it’s amberjack or not). I’ve done this and had some successes.

 

[RS Sanjanaa]

If anyone has insights on White and Case AC, please let me know! Thank you

especially in regard to the group exercise

 

[abc124]

How bad is it if I somehow managed to not link my answer to Stephenson Harwood even once? I don’t know how I achieved that, I was so stressed 😭 I mentioned their core competencies etc, I just didn’t name drop them….

 

[BillSikes]

How bad is it if I somehow managed to not link my answer to Stephenson Harwood even once? I don’t know how I achieved that, I was so stressed 😭 I mentioned their core competencies etc, I just didn’t name drop them….

What question was this for?

 

[abc124]

What question was this for?

The second one 😭

 

[GT1205H]

They could have sent out the wrong email, IDK, because the email is quite unambiguous that it was based on the SJT overall score which does not include VI:
View attachment 7237

View attachment 7238

The "video interview items - can be assessed for successful candidates only" does make it clear that AJ does allow firms to waste candidates' time by having them sit the VI even when they've already failed the SJT, and in such a case the VI will be ignored.

However, I quite frequently receive emails with the wrong reason for rejection from law firms, so they might have sent me a wrong email in this case and I lost on VI. 🤷‍♂️

IMO since that image is from Amberjack’s sales page, I think what they’re trying to say is that recruiters have the option to send video interviews successful candidates only, if they prefer. It would not make sense to send a video interview to all candidates if they were not going to consider it

 

[shays]

sometime

The second one 😭

I don't think I specifically linked the second one either??? I directly mentioned the competencies but except for the first and last I dont think I said SH directly. Lol I was screwed with the test and now with this too

 

[abc124]

sometime

I don't think I specifically linked the second one either??? I directly mentioned the competencies but except for the first and last I dont think I said SH directly. Lol I was screwed with the test and now with this too

Honestly idk if we should, it was my first time doing a vi and I remember reading somewhere that you’re supposed to link all your answers to the firm you’re applying to? 😭

 

[shays]

Honestly idk if we should, it was my first time doing a vi and I remember reading somewhere that you’re supposed to link all your answers to the firm you’re applying to? 😭

I mean, I also usually link my work experience in the app to the firm, but I think it was the second question about qualities? I don't think I linked that, first one obv talked about why the firm, last one was also the firm but I screwed that one up, middle two I dont think I specifically linked them

 

[BillSikes]

The second one 😭

I didn't ether and Idk how you could? Although I did copy from the values so there is an indirect link.

 

[InterestInPublicLaw]

I didn't ether and Idk how you could? Although I did copy from the values so there is an indirect link.

lol I didn’t link the 4th question to SH but only described how it will change generally. Maybe I’m screwed 🥲

sometime

I don't think I specifically linked the second one either??? I directly mentioned the competencies but except for the first and last I dont think I said SH directly. Lol I was screwed with the test and now with this too

I mean, I also usually link my work experience in the app to the firm, but I think it was the second question about qualities? I don't think I linked that, first one obv talked about why the firm, last one was also the firm but I screwed that one up, middle two I dont think I specifically linked them

 

[Deek14]

Did anyone else receive a holding email from K&L gates?