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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2025-26

Maddy

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Paul, Weiss, like other US firms, has a small trainee intake. Can anyone tell me how the firm’s small intake is different from that of other US firms with small trainee intakes?
 

xMontmorency

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Paul, Weiss, like other US firms, has a small trainee intake. Can anyone tell me how the firm’s small intake is different from that of other US firms with small trainee intakes?
They hire c10 trainees. In terms of numbers this is not unique at all.

The only difference is that they've never had trainees before (cf those with more established training contracts). That can be good or bad depending on how you spin it.

Positives
- Higher ceiling (i.e. lack of a fixed expectation of what a trainee should be doing or can do)
- Might be treated like a junior associate (more freedom)
- You probably get to decide yourself how the trainee system should work
- It's new?

Negatives
- Less structure
- Less support
- More likely to be in the spotlight
- Might be treated like a glorified paralegal
- Might be treated like a junior associate (higher expectations)
 

xMontmorency

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im doing an application which asks for a cover letter. Does anyone have any tips regarding: what to include/ a rough framework and a word count? thanks :)
Most job applications expect circa one page (like S&M), but for TCs/VSs you can get away with 2 pages. I would say keep it less than 1000 words (that's plenty; though NB I think W&C used to allow for 1500).

Structure:
- 'Dear X'
- Introductory sentence ('I am X; I am applying for Y')
- Why commercial law
- Why this firm
- Why me (anything extra you want to highlight about yourself: work experience, extra-curriculars)
- 'Thank you for considering my application ...'
- 'Sincerely, X'
 

londonlawyer

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For this question, "Detail your extra curricular activities and interests and positions of responsibility. Please state what you feel you have gained from them and how others have benefited from your involvement", should we focus on the skills we developed to answer the "what have you gained" part, or could I say that I developed a passion for mentoring others from my experience as a tutor?
 

Andrei Radu

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For this question, "Detail your extra curricular activities and interests and positions of responsibility. Please state what you feel you have gained from them and how others have benefited from your involvement", should we focus on the skills we developed to answer the "what have you gained" part, or could I say that I developed a passion for mentoring others from my experience as a tutor?
I think you can include both and ideally should include both.

In general, when wring an answer for an extracurriculars application form question, you always want to link the experience to a skill that is relevant to the role of a trainee solicitor. Nonetheless, given the particular language chosen by the firm when formulating their question ("how others have benefited from your involvement"), I would interpret this as a clear suggestion that you can discuss the relevance of an experience in a wider and potentially more communitarian context - i.e. you can explain how you developed skills/interests/qualities that were good for you and other people more generally, rather than only focusing on skills you developed that benefited you in the narrow sense of being good for your career. Presumably, the firm chose this drafting because they consider this broader personal development to make for a better candidate to recruit.

However, as I said in the beginning, I would try to discuss both (i) this wider personal development and (ii) the development of more specialised skills relevant for a trainee. This is again as a result of closely following the logic of the language: "what you feel you have gained from them" seems to me to suggest this second and more you-focused perspective, and using "and" instead of "or" suggests that the firm would prefer it if you could write about both rather than only focusing on one.
 
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Paul, Weiss, like other US firms, has a small trainee intake. Can anyone tell me how the firm’s small intake is different from that of other US firms with small trainee intakes?
To add to @xMontmorency 's great answer, I would say the trainee experience at Paul, Weiss is likely to be quite different from that at other US firms with small intakes because of:
  1. How novel the TC programme is: while it may be a general truth that firms with smaller intakes, and particularly American firms, will generally base their TCs on learning on the job and giving trainees higher responsibility - both in terms of work, and in terms of charting their own paths in the TC - these features are likely to be even more accentuated at Paul, Weiss. At other US firms with small intakes but with an older TC programme, while there will not be a lot of organised training, a general culture around how to teach and work with trainees will have formed over time. This is to say, by repeated experience, lawyers at the firm will get used to interacting with trainees in a common way - although what that particular "way" (in other words, the training culture) may remain difficult to describe precisely. However, at a firm with a very new TC programme, like Paul, Weiss, no such culture will have had time to be formed, and people will likely treat trainees in a similar way as they did in their prior firm. This can lead to both a more varied training experience and also place more responsibility on the trainees themselves to help shape the firm's training culture in a way that best fits their needs.
  2. How new the teams and (in a broader sense) the firm itself is in London: a similar point to the aforementioned one is that there will likely be no set firm-wide culture by the time trainees start working at Paul, Weiss - simply because not enough time has passed for all the new teams (many of whom arrived at different times) to have fully integrated. Thus, there will definitely still be a feel of trainees joining a new project at its very beginnings, which should also lead to them feeling like they are having a bigger impact on the firm.
 

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is the Linklaters open day the Immersive Workshop they have at various unis? idk where to find the link to their open day application
In the past few years they also used to run a selective Open Day at their London office and even have a fast-track scheme for attendees for a Vacation Scheme application. I have taken a look on their website and they have not listed this opportunity yet - but this may be because they will announce it later in the cycle rather than because they have chosen to drop it (I also vaguely remember it opening around early October two applications year ago).
 
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Most job applications expect circa one page (like S&M), but for TCs/VSs you can get away with 2 pages. I would say keep it less than 1000 words (that's plenty; though NB I think W&C used to allow for 1500).

Structure:
- 'Dear X'
- Introductory sentence ('I am X; I am applying for Y')
- Why commercial law
- Why this firm
- Why me (anything extra you want to highlight about yourself: work experience, extra-curriculars)
- 'Thank you for considering my application ...'
- 'Sincerely, X'
Thank you!!
 

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im doing an application which asks for a cover letter. Does anyone have any tips regarding: what to include/ a rough framework and a word count? thanks :)
A cover letter should include answers to the three core questions firms also generally ask on their application forms, and I would advise you to structure it by having dedicated paragraphs for each:
  1. Why commercial law: You should explain what makes you interested in commercial law rather than other career paths. Focus on motivations that do not apply to many other professions and that cover both the "law" part and the "commerce" part of the question - i.e. you need to explain both why you want to be a solicitor (rather than, say, a banker or a consultant) and why you want to be a solicitor working for businesses on commercial matters (rather than civil matters, family law, criminal law, etc). You should provide concrete examples of experiences which illustrate those motivations - the "show, don't tell" rule.
  2. Why the firm: You should explain why the firm interests you more than other firms in the City. To do this, you will need to identify its unique selling points (which will generally have to do with practice areas/sectors they are strong in). You should then once again link the unique aspects of the firm you claim to be interested in to particular examples of your experiences which suggest they align with your skills/motivations
  3. Why you: You should explain why you should be chosen to progress rather than many other applicants. Explain in detail (perhaps by using the STAR structure) some of your more impressive experiences/extracurriculars/achievements and then link them to skills that are relevant for the role of a trainee solicitor.
In terms of word count, unless the firm mentions a requirement, you should either write a full page or a full two pages. Nonetheless, if you choose the second option, you should ensure you have enough valuable content which justifies the length and that you still express yourself in a very concise and structured manner.
 

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Hi!

As there is a limited word count, I don't think you need to include any addresses in the cover letter :)
Hi!

Regarding NRF WVS, am I missing somethign here, as I don't see a word count, it tells me to upload a document as a cover letter?

Also, is it true that I don't need to do the Arctic shores again if I did it last year and am happy with my results?
 
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