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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2025-26

Giannis_218

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Dec 16, 2025
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The skadden one really hurt cause that was one of my best applications.
I get the feeling. Last year I spent a lot of time on my CC application and still got rejected at the first stage. You need to focus on quality, but it is also a numbers game at the end of the day. Onwards and upwards. Just keep going and stay consistent with the quality, and I promise the results will come 😊
 
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floral.tcla

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could anyone please advise on this please on understanding what a firm is looking for in their video interview process?
- Format: 3 mins to prep 90 seconds to respond
- Told we are being assessed on skills and competencies, and the VI email invite explicitly stated that the VI assesses 4 competencies
- But the firm's video advises us to focus just on how we would approach the situation - to not bring in past examples - but to also show your unique perspective and how we would approach the situation.
- am I correct in thinking that this is what the firm is saying: your skills/past experience is not directly assessed, only how you would approach the situation (which can be informed by past experiences, no matter what that encompassed and how much you have).
- but if everyone is saying similar things and making similar points, how would the firm distinguish between candidates (this is the final stage before the AC)?
 
Hi! Is time factored into SJT/WG results? For example, Weil says “The SJT portion of the assessment is untimed, but we recommend it should take around 45 minutes to complete.” Will I be penalized if I take let’s say double the time?
Hey,

For the timed SJT's, it will make a difference, and you should always aim to finish them! It is the same case for the WG. In the case of Weil, you won't get penalised, so take your time. From my understanding, the rationale behind the one sitting advice is so you can remain in a focused state.

Here is a link to more information from Weil, I hope it helps!


If you have any other questions, just reply to this message :)
 
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zonnonomo

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If you want to stay sort of law adjacent I’m really enjoying “Barbarians at the gate”
i remember associates at white and case recommending this at a private equity event! adding to cart...

also for anyone interested, i'm currently reading "the making of global capitalism" and it's a solid take on modern political & economic history without being a complete drag
 
Very interesting that you are willing to tell them how things go...

Your experience is your experience and will look completely different to the next person's? Maybe consider that others have seen success by doing the complete opposite of what you have done?

Not sure how and why you thought this would go down nicely.
I think you have misunderstood what I am saying. People are currently speculating and discussing University bias / the extent to which firms care about academic credentials over the application itself. I myself am quite interested as the applications are very long winded, often include lots of tests and frankly it would be a real shame if those elements weren't the heavy lifters. I'm simply just saying, I am not personally sure, but maybe my experience will be informative and I will share how things go. (Why exactly would this go down badly??).
 

Giannis_218

Standard Member
Dec 16, 2025
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could anyone please advise on this please on understanding what a firm is looking for in their video interview process?
- Format: 3 mins to prep 90 seconds to respond
- Told we are being assessed on skills and competencies, and the VI email invite explicitly stated that the VI assesses 4 competencies
- But the firm's video advises us to focus just on how we would approach the situation - to not bring in past examples - but to also show your unique perspective and how we would approach the situation.
- am I correct in thinking that this is what the firm is saying: your skills/past experience is not directly assessed, only how you would approach the situation (which can be informed by past experiences, no matter what that encompassed and how much you have).
- but if everyone is saying similar things and making similar points, how would the firm distinguish between candidates (this is the final stage before the AC)?
Hey, I think the point they are making is not to focus too much on personal experiences, as you will not have enough time to expand on them and still fully answer the question. I would focus on being as clear and precise as possible about the actions you would take in the given scenario. If time allows, you could briefly mention a relevant personal experience and how it helped you develop the required skills. However, the main priority is answering the question directly and communicating your actions clearly. Make sure your actions follow a logical order and are presented in a structured way, and I am sure it will go well.
 

yk1906

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Aug 26, 2024
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Look. What I’m trying to tell myself is that even without a TC I’ll be very well off. I get very sad with every rejection but I understand I do not have what many law firms are looking for (UK-related experience, at all, because everything I did was abroad). Do I think it’s worth giving a shot? Somehow, yes. I am good enough to be selected for a very competitive position in a big consulting firm, despite having a degree from a country no one cares about and knows of, to that end. So I’ll still apply and won’t let rejections doubt my self worth.
And I hope everyone of you feel the same! You never know if you don’t try, so I wish lots of luck to each and everyone, from those from Oxbridge to my fellow internationals ❤️
 
I don't disagree with either of you!

That's what I meant by the application answers acting as "filters". Writing something completely generic (without ties to the firm's strengths, or your personal motivation/experience) will increase the chance of being rejected. So, I agree that it's worthwhile to tailor your application answers as much as you possibly can if you want to have a good shot at progressing.

I'm certainly not advising people to spam low-quality applications because they have an impressive background. All I was saying, is that when there are hundreds (if not thousands) of exceptional applicants with tailored applications – all of whom are using the same resources to tailor their applications – the ones who tend to stand out are those with better experience (and underlying academics) which help them to craft a more compelling case.

Having said that, I also believe recruitment is (frequently) a luck-based process. As both of you have said, sometimes graduate recruitment see something unique in your application answers which makes you stand out. Therefore, to maximise your "luck" I agree that you should definitely tailor your application answers.
I 100% agree with this. I think in reality it's actually quite simple, the application questions you answer aren't your application. It's everything, your qualifications, your work experience (legal and non-legal), it's all taken into account holistically. Some applicants will definitely have strengths in one area over the others, but I don't think any part of the application is prioritised per say!
 

floral.tcla

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Aug 15, 2024
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Hey, I think the point they are making is not to focus too much on personal experiences, as you will not have enough time to expand on them and still fully answer the question. I would focus on being as clear and precise as possible about the actions you would take in the given scenario. If time allows, you could briefly mention a relevant personal experience and how it helped you develop the required skills. However, the main priority is answering the question directly and communicating your actions clearly. Make sure your actions follow a logical order and are presented in a structured way, and I am sure it will go well.
ahh ok thank you so much, that makes sense!
 
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A bit of a silly question... for Cooley's summer programme, one of the questions is 'Please tell us about interests and activities you pursue and positions of responsibility that are relevant for the role.' I was wondering if I should place advising at my university's legal clinic in this section instead of the work experience section as I have done previously? Also, would this count as a position of responsibility?

I ask this because its probably my strongest point, but I don't want to repeat what I have said in the work experience section. My other positions of responsibility largely come from my paid employment, so I don't want to mention them in this question. I also have a couple of positions of responsibility from Year 11 but I am very reluctant to use these seeing as it's been four years since then and it seems a little juvenile... 😓
Hey, It's not a silly question at all!

I think it's a very strong point. When you bring it up the legal clinic in the context of the work experience section, it should be in bullet points, and detailing what you did at the clinic, with metrics where possible (IE Advised 10 clients across 2 months, providing detailed and tailored legal advice).

When you talk about the experience in a written answer, it expands more and provides more detail. It's the link between the further detail, and how this relates to the summer programme. I would write something along the lines of how the experience showed that applying yourself to a client matter led to a desirable outcome, despite its difficulties, and then link this to the attitude towards work that you would display on the programme.

Their FAQ's says the following, which will be helpful:

'What do we look for?​

Cooley trainees need plenty of motivation and initiative. They should be adaptable and capable of thinking on their feet. Candidates should have developed great communication skills from a variety of situations and understand the critical importance of inclusivity and collaboration. Cooley will look for evidence of taking on leadership and seeking responsibilities. Interesting achievements, making the most of non-academic and work experience (not necessarily legal) opportunities – in addition to evidence of working hard to contribute to teams – will help applicants stand out.'


I hope that helps, and if you have any other questions, feel free to reply to this message!
 
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BealMcAlly

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I think you have misunderstood what I am saying. People are currently speculating and discussing University bias / the extent to which firms care about academic credentials over the application itself. I myself am quite interested as the applications are very long winded, often include lots of tests and frankly it would be a real shame if those elements weren't the heavy lifters. I'm simply just saying, I am not personally sure, but maybe my experience will be informative and I will share how things go. (Why exactly would this go down badly??).
I just don't see how that is helpful when your friend has previously said you submitted generic applications and relied on your profile? Clearly other candidates who don't have a similar profile will not see the same success and will rely on other aspects of the application process, such as the motivational and competency based questions to succeed? Hell, maybe they're just really good at the tests like you say.

I don't see how saying 'I stopped tailoring my apps because they took time and I got through anyway' is in any way helpful? Of course someone with an insane list of extracurriculars and a degree from an elite university will be looked at favourably, not sure it constitutes as sound advice... I will agree and say it's a very interesting topic of discussion and it just shows the unconscious bias majority of firms have towards Oxbridge, but it does not help anyone.
 
People applying to Kirkland, could you please tell me if you're answering the open question at the end? "Is there anything else you would like to add in support of your application?"

I've just noticed this and not sure whether they are expecting an answer
Hey :)

When firms ask this, don't worry about filling it. If nothing comes to mind, that means you probably wrote a strong application, hence nothing needs to be said!

I hope that helps!
 
I just don't see how that is helpful when your friend has previously said you submitted generic applications and relied on your profile? Clearly other candidates who don't have a similar profile will not see the same success and will rely on other aspects of the application process, such as the motivational and competency based questions to succeed? Hell, maybe they're just really good at the tests like you say.

I don't see how saying 'I stopped tailoring my apps because they took time and I got through anyway' is in any way helpful? Of course someone with an insane list of extracurriculars and a degree from an elite university will be looked at favourably, not sure it constitutes as sound advice... I will agree and say it's a very interesting topic of discussion and it just shows the unconscious bias majority of firms have towards Oxbridge, but it does not help anyone.
I'm so confused. I don't have a friend on here. I haven't been submitting generic applications or relying on my profile. This is my first application cycle? I've not gotten through anywhere yet. I was just saying that I had a similar profile to the person they had mentioned and was rejected from a lot of first year schemes. I have no idea how my current applications will go down, but that I would feed back.....
 
Hey Olivia,
First of all, congrats on getting through to the VI stage. From what I remember last year, there were four questions covering a mix of commercial, situational, and strength or attribute based topics. One key difference compared to other VIs is that the talking time is only one minute (thinking time is also 1min I believe), so make sure you are as direct and concise as possible. Best of luck!
This is brilliant advice, thank you so much! Good luck in your applications!
 

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