Does anyone have any advice on how to properly tackle a question asking: ‘how would you ensure you are continuously learning and developing in the role of a trainee associate’? Any help would be appreciated frfr!
Thank you, What a great response, your experience is invaluable! Good luck in your tcHi Trophy!
Honestly, I won’t sugarcoat this. Being rejected after a vacation scheme really hurt.
My first non-conversion hit me hard. I struggled with imposter syndrome throughout the scheme and put an enormous amount of pressure on myself to convert. When I got feedback, it was clear that nerves and lack of confidence came through in my interview, even though I knew the content. Hearing that was devastating at the time, and I did need space to process it.
What helped, eventually, was allowing myself to step back. I took time away from applications, LinkedIn, and constant comparison. That distance mattered more than I realised. When I came back the following cycle, I was clearer on what I needed to work on and less consumed by the fear of failure. I ended up securing further two vacation schemes as a result.
One thing I’ve learned is that rejection after a vac scheme doesn’t mean you weren’t good enough for the profession. Often it comes down to timing, confidence on the day, or very fine margins between candidates. Putting “everything” on converting can actually make it harder, because the pressure can stop you performing as you normally would.
What grounded me most was perspective. I’m the first in my family to go to university, from a low-income background, with no real understanding of the legal process around me. Getting to university, completing my degree, and even being in the position to do vacation schemes were achievements in themselves. I couldn’t let one firm’s “no” be the thing that ended a career I’d worked years towards.
I understand winter vacation schemes are slowly wrapping up so If you’re going through this now, be kind to yourself. Take time if you need it. Rejection feels personal, but it doesn’t define your ability or your future in law. 🤗
one scheme last year took 2/23Hi all! I received a call yesterday that I got Freshfields' Summer Vac Scheme, and I just wanted to ask if anyone had any insight into what the VS to TC conversion rates are like? I heard last year that they were quite low... apparently they've been oversubscribing spots for the last couple of years/business demand has been lower and that's why? I'm penultimate non-law, so I'd only start a TC in 2029, which I'm hoping hasn't had many spots taken yet. I'm just trying to work out whether it is worth still applying to a bunch of places in the hopes of perhaps getting a second vac scheme as a back up (but I admit, even getting a single one feels impossible lol.)
I got a rejection 23rd December last year.Any tips on how not to lose my mind over christmas knowing firms are going to be telling anyone anything until Jan🫠
Hey,Any tips on how not to lose my mind over christmas knowing firms are going to be telling anyone anything until Jan🫠
Honestly I found it so so tricky timings wise too and I haven’t heard anyone say they actually finished it! At least someone has to get picked for the AC so you never knowHas anyone on here done Osborne Clarke's deductive reasoning SHL test? I just did it and I think it was by far the hardest law firm test I've ever done... so little time for questions which aren't necessarily "hard" but realistically just can't be done that fast because you need a couple of minutes to work some of them out!
How on earth did they justify basically giving no one a TC lmao whattt?one scheme last year took 2/23
one scheme last year took 2/23
This is why I'm low key still stressed about getting another vac scheme...it almost feels like getting freshfields alone is SUCH a gamble with the conversion rate being so lowWhat was even the point in running that scheme in the first place lmao. I’m lowkey interested to hear what their excuses were for that. 🥲
i feel like this as a 2nd year undergrad... it's on my mind 24/7Sooo… does anyone have any tips on not being nervous and feeling like time is running out as a graduate LOL?! 😀
Orrick (I believe two years ago) had no one from their vacation scheme convert to tc. All their tc offers were from the DTC...What was even the point in running that scheme in the first place lmao. I’m lowkey interested to hear what their excuses were for that. 🥲
Hello!Does anyone have any advice on how to properly tackle a question asking: ‘how would you ensure you are continuously learning and developing in the role of a trainee associate’? Any help would be appreciated frfr!
So am I supposed to write a master's dissertation with no guarantee that they'll even look into it? 😂Attended Paul, Weiss’s webinar on PE deals today. As much as I found it useful, I’m honestly feeling quite discouraged from applying. Their associate said that we should speak with many people from every firm we’re applying to and how spending a week on an application isn’t enough time (as apparently, the associate speaker spent a whole year on their K&E vac scheme app answers and seemed to be super focused on landing a US TC at a top M&A/PE firm). He basically portrayed the whole process as a multiple year strategy, implying that getting into a firm of this calibre starts in your first year (or at least undergrad), and that working just a week on an application is nothing.
I just don’t see the point of applying if some candidates are this connected to top firms from their first year onwards. I can imagine that a lot of them will have done first year schemes or vac schemes at other firms, while all my experiences are in completely different sectors. On top of that, I did my law degree outside the UK and only decided to go corporate after I graduated, so this whole application world is new to me compared to LLB students in the UK that did first year schemes or were ambassadors etc.
His whole speech, while coming from a place of trying to help, made me think that unless I can back my motivation with very strong PE-related experience or open day at the firm, I might as well not apply. I can very well explain what I know about PE, why I want to work at a transactional firm, etc but honestly can’t compete with the likes of candidates the associate seemed like, given how selective PW and similar firms are.
Basically, my whole profile is very different to the usual successful candidate at firms like PW, K&E etc. so I’m trying to figure out if applying is even worth it. Regarding today’s discussions, I personally think that tailoring application answers makes a huge difference but perhaps trying with firms that are actually paying attention to them and trying to hire diverse people is a better idea.
Any insights?
I assume the DTC offers were given after the Vs was held rather than giving them to DTC applicants and running the VS?Orrick (I believe two years ago) had no one from their vacation scheme convert to tc. All their tc offers were from the DTC...
they took 9/41 from the summer. i know someone that did it and it was just brutalWhat was even the point in running that scheme in the first place lmao. I’m lowkey interested to hear what their excuses were for that. 🥲
I think it’ll be 24th - 1st.When does grad rec usually work over december and january? I'm sure it varies by firm but if anyone has any idea.
Is it usually an, off from this friday until 5th jan type of situation, or working every day except 24th-26th and the 1st.