I got a rejection 23rd December last year.
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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2025-26
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Has anyone on here done Osborne Clarke's deductive reasoning SHL test? I just did it and I think it was by far the hardest law firm test I've ever done... so little time for questions which aren't necessarily "hard" but realistically just can't be done that fast because you need a couple of minutes to work some of them out!
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Attended Paul, Weissās webinar on PE deals today. As much as I found it useful, Iām honestly feeling quite discouraged from applying. Their associate said that we should speak with many people from every firm weāre applying to and how spending a week on an application isnāt enough time (as apparently, the associate speaker spent a whole year on their K&E vac scheme app answers and seemed to be super focused on landing a US TC at a top M&A/PE firm). He basically portrayed the whole process as a multiple year strategy, implying that getting into a firm of this calibre starts in your first year (or at least undergrad), and that working just a week on an application is nothing.
I just donāt see the point of applying if some candidates are this connected to top firms from their first year onwards. I can imagine that a lot of them will have done first year schemes or vac schemes at other firms, while all my experiences are in completely different sectors. On top of that, I did my law degree outside the UK and only decided to go corporate after I graduated, so this whole application world is new to me compared to LLB students in the UK that did first year schemes or were ambassadors etc.
His whole speech, while coming from a place of trying to help, made me think that unless I can back my motivation with very strong PE-related experience or open day at the firm, I might as well not apply. I can very well explain what I know about PE, why I want to work at a transactional firm, etc but honestly canāt compete with the likes of candidates the associate seemed like, given how selective PW and similar firms are.
Basically, my whole profile is very different to the usual successful candidate at firms like PW, K&E etc. so Iām trying to figure out if applying is even worth it. Regarding todayās discussions, I personally think that tailoring application answers makes a huge difference but perhaps trying with firms that are actually paying attention to them and trying to hire diverse people is a better idea.
Any insights?
I just donāt see the point of applying if some candidates are this connected to top firms from their first year onwards. I can imagine that a lot of them will have done first year schemes or vac schemes at other firms, while all my experiences are in completely different sectors. On top of that, I did my law degree outside the UK and only decided to go corporate after I graduated, so this whole application world is new to me compared to LLB students in the UK that did first year schemes or were ambassadors etc.
His whole speech, while coming from a place of trying to help, made me think that unless I can back my motivation with very strong PE-related experience or open day at the firm, I might as well not apply. I can very well explain what I know about PE, why I want to work at a transactional firm, etc but honestly canāt compete with the likes of candidates the associate seemed like, given how selective PW and similar firms are.
Basically, my whole profile is very different to the usual successful candidate at firms like PW, K&E etc. so Iām trying to figure out if applying is even worth it. Regarding todayās discussions, I personally think that tailoring application answers makes a huge difference but perhaps trying with firms that are actually paying attention to them and trying to hire diverse people is a better idea.
Any insights?
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Honestly I found it so so tricky timings wise too and I havenāt heard anyone say they actually finished it! At least someone has to get picked for the AC so you never know
) And honestly if anyone actually found it doable they deserve it lol
What was even the point in running that scheme in the first place lmao. Iām lowkey interested to hear what their excuses were for that. š„²
Orrick (I believe two years ago) had no one from their vacation scheme convert to tc. All their tc offers were from the DTC...
Hello!
A good way to tackle this question is to show intentional, proactive learning (rather than an "I'll learn as I go" approach). To do this, you could touch on a few areas:
- Seeking feedback regularly: asking supervisors and colleagues for constructive feedback and actively acting on it
- Reflective practice: reflecting on tasks that you have completed, and discussing what went well / what didn't, and what you would do differently next time
- Using resources: you could discuss keeping up to date with legal developments through training sessions, CPD, internal know-how systems, etc.
- Asking questions and taking initiative: one of the main ways is to show how you would continually show curiosity, seek clarification for any points that you don't understand, or volunteering for work that you haven't had the opportunity to complete before
- Learning from others: observing senior associates / partners, learning different working styles, and collaborating with those around you
- Setting development goals: for example, this could be identifying skills that you want to specifically build during each seat and tracking your progress.
I hope that helps as a starting point!
So am I supposed to write a master's dissertation with no guarantee that they'll even look into it? š
I assume the DTC offers were given after the Vs was held rather than giving them to DTC applicants and running the VS?
they took 9/41 from the summer. i know someone that did it and it was just brutal
I think itāll be 24th - 1st.
Back to work on the 2nd unless they book it off.
Second this. Even someone with some PE work and US degree have spent app prep since 1L (first year of law school) to apply for 2L summer associate. By this case I won't apply for these types of PE heavy firms anymore. BYE GIBSON DUNN & PAUL HASTINGS!
Me applying P, W in my first cycle and first app with a day prep is so irrational and lame tbh. I took it as a bait, maybe should do an experiment for smaller firm š¤£ I felt so quirky now when read it back š
"5 days? Rookie numbers mate" - @Harvey Specter
Itās is vey demotivating handing that many vac scheme offers out to then not give Tcās. Iād be a wreck. People also reject other firms to go to a MC vac scheme so if you had rejected another firm and then saw them conversion rates wouldāve been terribly annoyed.
Thatās what he made it sound like yeahā¦ I just felt very inadequate for their whole graduate recruitment process as Iām a non-UK educated more mature candidate with essentially zero corporate experience. While firms like Reed Smith, Goodwin or even Skadden have more application questions and just seem to be looking for people from diverse backgrounds, perhaps even prioritising different experiences, PW seemed like the kinda firm to target top undergrad students from Oxbridge and London RGs that are fully set on going corporate and might already have some experience. But I couldnāt speak for you, as I said earlier, sometimes itās just luck and Iām not sure what any of these firms are truly looking for.
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