For Reed smith can you do the sjt part and then do the VI another day? Or does it all need to be done in one?
Yes you can do this 👍For Reed smith can you do the sjt part and then do the VI another day? Or does it all need to be done in one?
when did you apply?Just got a Dechert written exercise invite! Could anyone please share some insight into it? can't find anything online.
9th of Decemberwhen did you apply?
do you think it is worth applying now?9th of December
Yeah, why not. They're clearly still considering applications so might as welldo you think it is worth applying now?
Thank you and to everyone for the advice, much appreciatedI think that it's okay to feel how you're feeling, and I also think that the fact that you're here asking for advice shows that you really want this, a career in law, in which case, it's really important to not give up. It's not the end of the world if you can't land a TC now, and you clearly have a strong enough profile to maybe land a paralegal role or something else so that you can continue applications in the meantime.
I think, with VIs, it may be worth considering whether you're over-preparing and sounding too rehearsed, if as you say, all your various 1-to-1s have yielded encouraging feedback. Others have already provided, imo, much better advice on tackling VIs than I can add on here.
The truth is that I think anyone going through all the rejections feels that the odds are really stacked against them, but at the end of the day, it really does take only one, and you've clearly got what it takes as you've been invited to ACs before. Sometimes there's no real rhyme or reason as to why you have or haven't been progressed each cycle, only the final decision-makers at each stage will actually know. I refer to this post by Afraz a couple of days ago to hopefully keep you going. (https://www.thecorporatelawacademy....ns-discussion-thread-2025-26.9717/post-231386)
As for your last point, I don't disagree tbh, but this is the unfortunate reality we all live in now. We're not exactly in a position, as applicants, to compel change in the process, but do also consider the firms' perspectives as competition and the sheer volume of applications keep increasing year-on-year. It's a very trying/testy process and all we can really do is give it our best at each moment and stage, and hope that the decision-makers see our potential and offer us a TC.
Please take some time to take care of yourself over the next couple of days and bounce back, it's Christmas after all! Beyond that, I'm wishing you all the best and hoping for your success this cycle!
Sorry to hear this, and you’re right the process is exhausting. There’s definitely a lot of mental hurdles to jump through before you start your TC, whether that’s applications, assessments, SQE exams - it’s a career choice that requires a lot of investment - but It’s only going to be made worse by placing more pressure on yourself to secure one sooner now that you’ve graduated.Looking for a bit of advice, would appreciate anything.
I think I’m genuinely considering calling it a day regarding TC’s:
Last year, I managed to make it to 2 ACs, with the more recent of the two being a huge positive for me. Though I didn’t get an offer, I received positive feedback and fell just short, and it was a significant improvement on the first AC. It’s also worth mentioning this was for a firm with a notoriously challenging AC, which I further took as a positive.
This was around August, so it gave me good motivation to hit the ground running with this cycle. By this point, I knew what I was doing, I’d perfected my strategy when it came to SJT’s, Watson Glasers, so I felt good going into this cycle…
Only to quickly realise that most firms decided this year they want to throw a massive spanner in the works and make their processes 40x harder. Before this, I knew VIs were not my strength, so I thought I’ll just avoid firms that use them, considering I knew I was now strong in written applications and psychometrics. Now, it seems that VIs are an unavoidable fact of TC applications as of this year.
Still, I went into WVS applications quite optimistic. Fast forward to now, received rejections from every single winter I applied to, which was demoralising but I knew it was still early days.
Again, fast forward to now, I’m genuinely considering just saving my time and investing it elsewhere, starting to believe the odds are far too stacked against me.
I’ve completed about 10 VIs for firms this year already, with a good portion of those being selective, so again I know my applications are pristine and my psychometrics are too, but I’ve been rejected from all. I’ve had 1 to 1s with various people to help me improve VI performance, who all said that I was seemingly quite good with them.
I was going into this cycle with AC experience from two elite City Firms and so I naturally felt pretty confident in my abilities, but this year feels regressive if anything at this moment in time. Now I just think it’s ultimately impossible to even get an AC, especially with this cycle quietly coming to the end in a month or so, at least for vacs. I’m now a graduate and so I really cannot afford to keep investing my time into what seems to be a black hole, having told myself I’m going to give it my best shot this year and leave no stone unturned.
And in my opinion - and it could sound convenient - I think the way firms are heading with these new recruitment processes is ultimately starting to diminish the merit that used to be involved in writing an impressive application. Though I know endurance is very important in this process too, it does feel like unless the quality you input is matched with an exhausting amount of stamina, people who were strong contenders in ACs and vacs are now not even being shown the time of day.
But that’s just my opinion. Let me know what you think, thanks.
omg huge congrats!! is this for spring or summer?Just got a Dechert written exercise invite! Could anyone please share some insight into it? can't find anything online.
Thanks! It's for the spring schemeomg huge congrats!! is this for spring or summer?
Doesn’t matter, you get unlimited prep time.Anyone know the questions for Simmons & Simmons S&S VI ??
yes please!!!!!!!What on earth was that 2nd Osborne Clarke test?!
Can we start a petition to make law firms let us take their online tests before we waste hours and hours filling out their applications?
I wonder if their poor grad team are trying to get back to everyone by tomorrow!Reed smith assessment invite applied 18th December.
I wonder if their poor grad team are trying to get back to everyone by tomorrow!