TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2021-22 (#1)

[tt_xo]

Does anybody know whether CMS sends the Watson Glaser automatically or whether they review the application first? Thanks

 

[Law2022]

Who else still hasn't heard if they've passed the SJT for A&O?

meee

 

[OB]

Does anybody know whether CMS sends the Watson Glaser automatically or whether they review the application first? Thanks

They review your application first and the WG is the next stage!

 

[M777]

Who else still hasn't heard if they've passed the SJT for A&O?

Don't worry about it. I didn't hear back with an email until two days ago, and I applied well over a month and a half ago!

Seems like their timelines are really quite inconsistent this year

 

[GXA123]

Just to echo Jess here, the question just wants to know generally what would be important to any client. So it’s more an exercise of just putting yourself in any clients shoes rather than a specific client. Some things that (I think) would be important to clients:

- Cost - What AFAs (alternative fee arrangements) can the firm offer? Does the firm have good project management systems in place to make matters run more efficiently? Is the firm using any legal tech?
- Sector/Industry expertise - How much does Gowling know about the clients business and their specific needs? You don’t need to know the client for this - focus on the expertise the firm already offers across the board
- USPs - What can Gowling offer that a similar competitor law firm can’t? Is there something about their business model/international reach/rankings/past deal experience that pushes them ahead of the competition?

Thank you! this is very helpful. appreciate it

 

[hopefullawyer101]

In SJT's where the conflict is between being a leader and a team player, how do you decide which one is best approach if a law firm is looking for both?

 

[TCLA Community Assistant]

In SJT's where the conflict is between being a leader and a team player, how do you decide which one is best approach if a law firm is looking for both?

Things to consider:

Does the firm state it values leadership or collaboration in its marketing material?

In the scenario, are you really going to be a designated leader (eg a first seat trainee working with qualified lawyers vs second year trainee working with paralegals)?

 

[hopefullawyer101]

Things to consider:

Does the firm state it values leadership or collaboration in its marketing material?

In the scenario, are you really going to be a designated leader (eg a first seat trainee working with qualified lawyers vs second year trainee working with paralegals)?

The assessment criteria puts both collaboration and leadership in its materials, hence the confusion.

The assessment was also very basic scenarios on a sliding scale. Example: I am a team player or I am a leader

 

[TCLA Community Assistant]

The assessment criteria puts both collaboration and leadership in its materials, hence the confusion.

The assessment was also very basic scenarios on a sliding scale. Example: I am a team player or I am a leader

Ah ok. That technically isn’t an SJT assessment really.

There isn’t a right or wrong answer with these type of personality questionnaires, they weigh it up across all your answers and get a profile, it is not like this is a pass/fail assessment, which an SJT is.

Just answer honestly and consistently across the questions posed (as there is likely to be similar questions). If you think you are both, just go with the “middle” option.

 

[y1112]

Does anyone what time the deadline is for HSF winter on 1 October? I.e is it midnight on the 1st, or midnight on the 30th?

just asked grad recruitment on the Vantage Q&A - 23:59 on 1 October, but they would recommend submitting by 5/6pm incase of tech issues etc.

 

[tt_xo]

Macfarlanes have changed their position and their applications are no longer rolling!

Can I just where you heard about this change? thanks

 

[hopefullawyer101]

Ah ok. That technically isn’t an SJT assessment really.

There isn’t a right or wrong answer with these type of personality questionnaires, they weigh it up across all your answers and get a profile, it is not like this is a pass/fail assessment, which an SJT is.

Just answer honestly and consistently across the questions posed (as there is likely to be similar questions). If you think you are both, just go with the “middle” option.

This is very helpful!

 

[Tcapplicant]

Can I just where you heard about this change? thanks

It’s on their website “We do not recruit on a rolling basis and review all applications after the deadline has closed.”

 

[Asil Ahmad]

Anyone heard from Bird and Bird yet about the spring and summer vacation scheme.

 

[hopefullawyer101]

Has anyone heard from Slaughters for non-law direct TC 2024?

 

[kat_]

Hi, everyone!
I'd like to ask whether my approach for A&O application questions is 'correct'. The questions are quite straight forward but I am just getting confused.

Question 1
Please describe the key learnings/skills you’ve gained through work experience, positions of responsibility, personal experience, or extracurricular activities.

• For this, I used examples of when I 'innovated' a process (at work), collaborated on a campaign with a group of people, and lastly how I use 'attention to detail' when checking website articles.

Question 2
Outline how you would apply these skills to the trainee role at A&O, in order to be successful.

• Innovation - I talked about how innovative A&O is (RelativityOne) and how I would put the client first, and look for new approaches
• Collaboration - I'd have to work with many different people within the firm (so I gave an example of their recent deal where different teams were involved) but also internationally.
• Attention to detail - proof-reading etc

 

[summer207]

hi, does anyone know whether latham recruits their winter VS on a rolling basis? thank you!

All their vacation schemes are non-rolling this year

 

[S87]

Hi Guys,

Has anyone previously applied to Debevoise & Plimpton and is willing to give me some suggestions?

 

[Law2022]

Finally heard back from A&O and I passed the test woooo! It says my application will now move onto the next stage and be reviewed? Does everybody get this message?

 

[M777]

Finally heard back from A&O and I passed the test woooo! It says my application will now move onto the next stage and be reviewed? Does everybody get this message?

Nope, you have to pass the SJT before your app is considered

congrats!