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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2025-26

xMontmorency

Distinguished Member
Dec 24, 2023
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I would like to give my take on the SJT / WG debate, if I may. I'm going to try to upset everyone by defending the use of both.

Law firms want two things when screening candidates for interview: (i) a way of finding candidates that show the skills and qualities the firm looks for and (ii) and a way of doing that in a standardised, non-biased and efficient manner (also motivation, but let’s ignore that for sake of argument). I would argue that WGs and SJTs aren’t amazing at (i), but they do (ii) really well.

I kind of understand the WG hate. The questions can feel arbitrary. I personally think the strong/weak argument section is bullshit. And it’s not that directly relatable to the actual work you do on the job (proofreading, filing, drafting, research, client comms). For those who studied law, it’s kind of like the LNAT – few of the skills required in it were applied in my LLB.

But what the WG does do really well is test verbal reasoning and individuals’ ability to think critically, which law firms find very important. The questions may be a bit arbitrary, but, crucially, they’re a standardised and, in the long run, reliable way of testing people. I am willing to bet that there is a correlation between people’s LNAT scores and whether they achieved a first class, and similarly people’s WG scores and whether they have the suitable critical/verbal reasoning skills.

I also get the SJT hate. I don’t think sliding a scale towards the “I prefer working in teams” box and away from the “I prefer working alone” box reliably predicts whether an individual is actually good at teamwork. You can give any answer, and, even if you believe it, it might not be true.

But, again, it’s a standardised way for firms to look for particular decision-making traits and soft skills. Studies have shown that, on average, SJTs are pretty decent predictors of behavioural decision-making skills and personality types (in particular, the ones with multiple options to choose from - source). The benefit is that firms can filter out people who score low, and ensure a variety of personality types make it to the TC, giving firms a strong and diverse candidate pool on average.

Complain all you like about SJTs and WGs, there really aren’t much better ways of doing it. Firms have 1000s of applications to whittle down. Some good candidates may get lost through the WG/SJT, but overall the candidate pool is shrunk down pretty efficiently and accurately.

For most people, this is actually more accessible. Trust me, you don’t want every firm to recruit like Slaughters where it’s just the grades and uni you went to that matters. If recruitment were heavily geared towards work experience, it would just be the nepo babies that get TCs. Cover letters and application questions suffer from the vice of ghostwriters and ChatGPT. At least, with WGs, you get a real chance to prove yourself with every application you make.

To those struggling with either, think of it as a challenge to overcome. WGs and SJTs can be taught, learned and practised.
 
Personal request here, I wasn't sure whether to ask this on this or another forum but anyway I'd be grateful if somebody with some insight could provide some advice or point me in the right direction.

This application cycle, like my last 2, has been frustrating. Zero assessment centres so far. I'm starting to feel that I might be locked out of this profession, even though I feel my CV is alright. I did law at a good/midway russel group university (think Bristol/Warwick)/etc). I graduated recently. I gained 1:1 marks in the majority of my modules and ended up with a high 2:1 overall. At my university that puts me around the top 10% of my year. I’ve got sustained extracurricular involvement (pro bono, law soc, etc) and I’ve been to plenty of events/fairs and stuff. I’ve got a little work experience too.

Unfortunately my transcript is spotty: I have 4 2:2s including a 0 in my second year. Now, I can explain these results based on solid, verifiable extenuating circumstances, but I'm wondering a little how much firms really take this into account?

I don't think my app answers are the problem because I'm getting progressed to the online test and/or video interview on pretty well nearly all of the firms I've applied to. Moreover, I know I've done well on at least some of these tests. On the Mills & Reeve test my scores were all in the very high bracket, right at the end of the sliders, apart from one aspect which was moderate. Still rejected. I've only been invited to 2 ACs before, both of which I didn't quite make, but now it seems with ACs having already been given out I'm out of luck for this cycle.

I know its a numbers game, so I guess my question is: should I cut my losses and forget about law in the UK or keep at it? Worth saving up for a masters degree or not? I’d rather somebody with actual experience and insight answers this please, or can suggest where/who I might be able to get an opinion or discuss with. Many thanks.
 

AryanAgg

New Member
Dec 17, 2025
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Did Mishcon SJT, got perfect on applied verbal and numerical but 18/36 on the behavioral aspects (mostly just thought about what an actual trainee would do in real life), I am cooked I guess. Is there any hope if the bright apply is good?
 
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x_law2004

Star Member
Jan 20, 2025
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Personal request here, I wasn't sure whether to ask this on this or another forum but anyway I'd be grateful if somebody with some insight could provide some advice or point me in the right direction.

This application cycle, like my last 2, has been frustrating. Zero assessment centres so far. I'm starting to feel that I might be locked out of this profession, even though I feel my CV is alright. I did law at a good/midway russel group university (think Bristol/Warwick)/etc). I graduated recently. I gained 1:1 marks in the majority of my modules and ended up with a high 2:1 overall. At my university that puts me around the top 10% of my year. I’ve got sustained extracurricular involvement (pro bono, law soc, etc) and I’ve been to plenty of events/fairs and stuff. I’ve got a little work experience too.

Unfortunately my transcript is spotty: I have 4 2:2s including a 0 in my second year. Now, I can explain these results based on solid, verifiable extenuating circumstances, but I'm wondering a little how much firms really take this into account?

I don't think my app answers are the problem because I'm getting progressed to the online test and/or video interview on pretty well nearly all of the firms I've applied to. Moreover, I know I've done well on at least some of these tests. On the Mills & Reeve test my scores were all in the very high bracket, right at the end of the sliders, apart from one aspect which was moderate. Still rejected. I've only been invited to 2 ACs before, both of which I didn't quite make, but now it seems with ACs having already been given out I'm out of luck for this cycle.

I know its a numbers game, so I guess my question is: should I cut my losses and forget about law in the UK or keep at it? Worth saving up for a masters degree or not? I’d rather somebody with actual experience and insight answers this please, or can suggest where/who I might be able to get an opinion or discuss with. Many thanks.
On the grades point i was in a similar situation with extenuating circumstances, but this doesn’t mean you should give up as you have a strong 2:1 overall , plus ive spoken to some grad rec from some international firms who said sometimes seeing a large improvement is a big indicator of capability, which it seems like you did!

Before i overcame my extenuating circumstances and got my better grades, i made it to AC at a top US firm who is notorious for being very strict throughout the process (and believe me I had some really bad results at this stage, despite them being warranted I was still really anxious about it). On next steps im not exactly qualified to give the answer so im not gonna try to, sorry! I can say you shouldn’t let that hold you back if you have ex.c
 

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