It is selective so not everyone is sent it, but if it does get sent I think it's about a two week wait minimum? Since it's the last few days of the application window for Spring they might be quite backlogged though - hope that helps!Hi all! How long do you have to wait for the TW assessment after submitting an application?
It just reads like a holding email! I wouldn’t read too much into it, perhaps they’ve had a lot of people contacting grad rec asking for updates? Big time sink for them fielding those sorts of enquiries!Did anyone else receive an application update from Macfarlanes saying your application is under consideration but we’re still reviewing other applications. Does it mean I’m on a standby list? Or that they haven’t gotten to mine yet? Anyone have experience with this type of message?
Makes sense! Thank youIt just reads like a holding email! I wouldn’t read too much into it, perhaps they’ve had a lot of people contacting grad rec asking for updates? Big time sink for them fielding those sorts of enquiries!
For Mayer brown, just research the amberjack pillars to understand how to do their SJTs properly. Unfortunately I don't remember what the VI questions were like.Anyone have any advice on Milbank and Mayer Brown online tests? What to expect and how to prep 🙏🏾
Anyone have any advice on Milbank and Mayer Brown online tests? What to expect and how to prep 🙏🏾
For Milbank just practice SJT and WE you'd be Fine!I just got an invitation to the Milbank "online assessments". On their brochure, it lists "online assessment" as part of the 1st stage and "critical reasoning test" as the second stage:
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Does anyone know what this first assessment is?
I’m not sure we quite appreciate how many people contact them and are probably a bit annoying with questions clearly on their websites 😆Makes sense! Thank you
Hi @Shahenshah and first of all huge congratulations on getting to the AC 🥳! Case study interviews are often the trickiest part of an AC to prepare for, as they come in a wide variety of formats. Just to list a few types of case studies that I have encountered:Also, got an AC coming up at Jones Day, my first ever, not sure what to expect when it comes to case study interviews, so any and all advice would be greatly appreciated!
Besides that, I advise you to generally work on your commercial analysis skills in the coming week by engaging with commercial awareness material in a more critical and active manner. Thus, when you next read an article or listen to a podcast, instead of doing so passively, only aiming to improve your stock of background knowledge, ask yourself questions like:
This kind of thinking will develop your ability to analyze commercial topics better, which is the key skill case studies assess.
- What are the essential points about this story I would mention if I had to summarize it quickly and clearly?
- What are the causes for the events in the story?
- Who are the different stakeholders, and how does this impact them?
- What are potential responses in light of the story, and what are the arguments for each? What is my view, and how would I substantiate it?
I think you should still submit it. You would be surprised how many times people progressed past a VI they really thought had gone horrendously - particularly if only one answer was bad, recruiters can sometimes overlook it and play it down to nerves and an awkward format if you otherwise showed yourself as a promising candidate.I have already messed up on the first VI question for Macfarlanes simulate assessment. I panicked and didn't really make much sense. Am I better off not submitting it so that they won't have a record of it if I want to apply in the future?
You can find the live recordings of our classes and our other presentations on the topic on this link (scroll all the way down if you cannot see it at first).Where can premium members watch recordings of the recent class on "why you, competency stories & work experience"?
Andrei, this is a gold mine - thank you so much! if I get in, it's thanks to this!Hi @Shahenshah and first of all huge congratulations on getting to the AC 🥳! Case study interviews are often the trickiest part of an AC to prepare for, as they come in a wide variety of formats. Just to list a few types of case studies that I have encountered:
As such, I would advise you to try to gather as much information about what Jones Day's case study interview looks like (perhaps consider reaching out to trainees, etc). Unless you get a good view of what the interview format will be, in my view, the only way to prepare is by developing the underlying skills every case study will seek to test: time-management and work under pressure, clarity of writing and structure, commercial awareness and analysis, ability to digest large amounts of information, etc.
- Commercial article based discussion: here, you would be given an article/number of articles to read on some controversial commercial matter, and would then be expected to go in and explain a summary of the information to partners, answer questions, and engage in a debate based on your views on the topic.
- Client problem simulation: in some other case study, you will be given a short brief as to a matter a client wants to be informed on relating to a problem they are facing/a project they are considering, and then you will have to read a number of different documents and form a view on potential solutions and action-plans. You will then once again be expected to present your views and defend them.
- M&A and document review: some case studies will involve looking at documents relating to companies for the purposes of a fictitious M&A deal, and you would have to point out relevant considerations to decide on a target to acquire and how you will mitigate against risks in the transaction.
- Research and presentation: some case studies will partly involve a research task (although normally not very extensive research is expected), where you will be briefed as to a problem and then have to find your own materials to base your opinion on.
- Writing task presentation: finally, some case studies also involve first preparing a written piece on the matter and only afterwards presenting it and discussing your views with partners.
To do that, I think it is useful to both practice actual case studies and to read more widely about the commercial matters that might be relevant for them. A particularly helpful resource for me was the course offered by TCLA on the matter (which you can find here). It includes a number of mock PE and M&A case studies, recordings of two hour long sessions explaining how to think through written/interview style M&A case studies, and a number of questions that are analyzed in depth by the TCLA team. To link a few useful free resources on TCLA:
Besides these, I have also found a few external resources you may want to take a look at:
- An amazing guide for M&A case studies by @Jacob Miller, which includes both a mock case study and a model answer with detailed explanations of how you should think through the materials (which you can find here).
- A mock written case study offered by TCLA here.
- An excellent article written by @Jaysen Sutton, which explains the process, types, structures, and general terms of an M&A transaction (which you can find here).
- A glossary of M&A terms by @Amma Usman here.
Finally, I quoted bellow a posts I wrote on how to improve your ability for commercial analysis: