Guys why was that WE so hard man 😭 making me question whether I'm even skilled enough to be a lawyer dud
It's tricky. Especially without firm sponsorship, which can be helpful but even then not cover your cost of living. In my experience (currently at ULaw Bloomsbury) most people (non-sponsored) will use a combination of the government postgrad grant (they will do either the MA Law or LLM SQE) and savings. There's a lot who straight up live at home outside of london in commuter towns and commute to class 3 days a week.Really rogue question, but when you start the PGDL or SQE, how do people afford to live in London? I’m coming from Leeds and having to move down with my partner and for the life of us cannot see how we will manage it. Those who’ve done the SQE or going to, how do you make it work? Most firms I’m looking at give a 10-15k bursary but I’ve no idea how to make that work :/
- sorry if this is a really daft question, but I’ve tried to do some research and thought maybe this could be a good place to discuss since we will all (or majority) need to move down to London at some point?
Brightnetwork is useful for this!Does anybody have a list of firms offering DTCs already? I am trying to manage my workload in that sense now![]()
Fingers crossed there is, I thought I did well in the vi 🫠Do you guys think there will be more CMS AC offers coming out? Or am I cooked?
Totally agree, hopefully it’ll just be obvious enough to grad rec when people have used itNow that both slots are over, was anyone else disappointed in the Skadden written exercise?
They say not to use AI but it's so easy to in the format they sent it in and I'm sure lots of people will use AI, seriously disadvantaging the candidates who followed the rules. There are so many systems that allow for AI-secure written exercises; it says a lot about the firm that they couldn't be bother to ensure their recruitment process is fair and secure.
Sorry for rant!
One tip- don't always prioritise speaking to your supervisor first.guys how are you passing SJTs? I desperately need help. I was rejected from Freshfields and Latham post stage 1 when I thought I aligned my answers with their values. I never stuck to do the middle of the sliding scale, always spoke to my supervisor first for the ranking questions etc. IDK wham I'm missing and I have Weil's SJT next Tuesday and I really want to pass it!
Any help would really be greatly appreciated
Thanks! How should I tell the difference between when I'm supposed to go to my supervisor vs when not toOne tip- don't always prioritise speaking to your supervisor first.
Showing initiative and giving things a go is quite important in these tests. Going to your supervisor on some things is great, when its needed, but other things you rank first diving straight in.
I also really struggle with getting my head around this - how can you know which ones they want you to dive straight in and which you should be asking about first?One tip- don't always prioritise speaking to your supervisor first.
Showing initiative and giving things a go is quite important in these tests. Going to your supervisor on some things is great, when its needed, but other things you rank first diving straight in.
I've read that it's more suitable to approach a supervisor when you're in your first seat and to show more initiative during your last seat.Thanks! How should I tell the difference between when I'm supposed to go to my supervisor vs when not to
Ooooh that makes a lot of sense, thank you!I've read that it's more suitable to approach a supervisor when you're in your first seat and to show more initiative during your last seat.
Guys why was that WE so hard man 😭 making me question whether I'm even skilled enough to be a lawyer dud
I felt like crying in the middle of it.😭Guys why was that WE so hard man 😭 making me question whether I'm even skilled enough to be a lawyer dud
I'm quite stuck with these Akin questions:
What motivates you to pursue a career as a commercial solicitor, and why do you see Akin as the right place to begin that journey?
What are you looking for in your legal career, and how do you see a firm like Akin helping you achieve those goals?
I feel like motivations and career goals overlap - say I'm motivated by complex reasoning. Naturally my career goal may also be to build on that interest and become even better at it? And then I also feel like there's not that many diverse Akin-specific points you can make to support your answers - if I mention Akin's culture in q1 then I shouldn't say the same thing in q2...And I can't really mention wanting to develop my professional interests in the career goals question because that's already covered in another question on which practice area at Akin interests you most.
Idk if that makes sense I think I may be going mad lol
Hey!
They do seem similar at first glance, but you can separate them by focusing on motivation vs long-term aspirations.
1. "What motivates you to pursue a career as a commercial solicitor, and why do you see Akin as the right place to begin that journey?"
Here, you want to explain:
- Why commercial law? (e.g. interest in global markets, problem-solving, transactional work, client exposure, fast-paced environments, etc.)
- Your motivation (what sparked your interest and what keeps you driven)
- Why Akin specifically: link your interests to things that Akin is known for, such as: (1) standout practice areas, (2) lean team structure and responsibility early on, (3) international exposure, (4) culture / values you have researched, (5) training approach, (6) pro bono, and (7) recent deals that you have read about.
- Make sure to link the why Akin to your past experiences - essentially answering why you want to pursue commercial law, and why Akin is the space that you particularly want to pursue it.
2. "What are you looking for in your legal career, and how can Akin help you get there?"
This is more forward-looking. I'd focus on:
- What you want from your development as a lawyer during your training contract (e.g. early responsibility, strong training, international work, high-value transactions, supportive culture, client exposure, etc.)
- The kind of lawyer you hope to become (which could potentially link to your motivations to becoming a lawyer)
- How Akin enables that progression: tie specific firm features to your goals (e.g. pro bono opportunities, global platform, small intake, etc.)
I hope that helps!![]()
What was it about, if I may ask? I'm genuinely curious what they made you guys review/draft 😃I felt like crying in the middle of it.😭
Omg thanks so much!I was stuck on these questions too and asked on the forum and was given this guidance:
Thanks! How should I tell the difference between when I'm supposed to go to my supervisor vs when not to
thank you so much!Sometimes it’ll say something like ‘you haven’t done this task before’ or ‘you are unfamiliar with the matter’ vs ‘you think you know xyz’ etc so I’d always assumed that distinction meant when we should approach our supervisor or seek help and when not to and instead show more initiative. Idk if this is the right approach but it’s helped me pass a few SJT tests throughout this cycle so far.