Spring, 16 OctHiya
Is this for summer? If so, can I ask when u applied?
Spring, 16 OctHiya
Is this for summer? If so, can I ask when u applied?
Thank you! Spring sorry, I thought I had applied for summer but I've just checked. 16 Oct.omg well done huge congrats!! I assume this is summer also but could I ask when you applied?
This sounds like a generally good approach to take. As long as you can get 20+ apps out I'd continue with this.I think i'm a bit too careful when i'm writing apps. I sit there going over wordings etc and always take ages finding the best deals to talk about. A simple why this firm can take me like 1-2 hours and even tho i have a couple commercial stories im following i always try and be uber specific to why it impacts their practice area by naming a deal they've worked on and how transactions similar to this would be impacted
100% agree- while I am one to say more is more in terms of applications because of how horrifically competitive it is, this is only the case IF you have enough time to send quality applications to lots of firms. When I was at uni I had much less free time (v intense course) and I think I rushed lots of applications because I thought I had to submit lots and they were under-researched and bad quality. Surprise surprise got rejected! This is especially the case if this is your first cycle- as quality applications take much less time now than they used to.For anyone who is stressed they haven’t written enough applications most trainees I’ve spoken to submitted under 20, and lots submitted fewer than 10. I’ve only submitted 8 this year, and have an AC at HL (not heard back from the others yet). Obviously the process is VERY luck based, and the more apps you do the better your odds, but spending more time on fewer apps is a just as valid route to pick. Ultimately, it just comes down to personal preference and the time you have available.
I’m applying to less than 10 this year. I know it’s partly a numbers game, but I can’t just apply to any firm for the sake of a training contact. I have to genuinely like the firm, otherwise I won’t spend the time applying. It’s a waste of my time as I know I’ll put in a weak application if I’m applying for the sake of numbers.For anyone who is stressed they haven’t written enough applications most trainees I’ve spoken to submitted under 20, and lots submitted fewer than 10. I’ve only submitted 8 this year, and have an AC at HL (not heard back from the others yet). Obviously the process is VERY luck based, and the more apps you do the better your odds, but spending more time on fewer apps is a just as valid route to pick. Ultimately, it just comes down to personal preference and the time you have available.
What’s so bad about it 😭That OC test made me want to rescind my application 😪
It does sound nice, but sitting as a recorder in the commercial court or chancery court is not the kind of thing you typically get near to unless you're a KC. If you're interested in becoming a commercial judge, you should be thinking about the bar (or the BCL). Though I would recommend the judicial assistant scheme they have at the High Court, Court of Appeal and Supreme Court, which is accessible to NQ disputes solicitors.Thinking about my career in the long-term, I am interested in gaining experience as a part-time judge. You can't start official applications or mentoring schemes with the judiciary until 5-7 years PQE, of course; but I'm still researching and exploring options that might be available to me in the meantime, e.g., tribunal roles, unofficial judge shadowing.
I think sitting as a part-time judge would be fantastic experience for a commercial solicitor, especially on the road to partnership, and allow me to see processes, cases, clients, etc. from a fresh point of view. Once established as an Associate, I think it would be great to sit as a judge for a few days a year. A valuable learning and professional development experience that would make me a more rounded lawyer.
However, I wonder about whether I should mention any of this in VS/TC applications. It would only be one or two sentences in my application, to demonstrate long-term plans and passion for the law. But might this kind of thing be off-putting for some law firm recruitment teams?
Thanks for any thoughts about this.
Personally, and this is just a very unwashed opinion, I’d keep it out of VS/TC applications and save it for a point in your career where it clearly complements, rather than competes with, your commitment to the firm.Thinking about my career in the long-term, I am interested in gaining experience as a part-time judge. You can't start official applications or mentoring schemes with the judiciary until 5-7 years PQE, of course; but I'm still researching and exploring options that might be available to me in the meantime, e.g., tribunal roles, unofficial judge shadowing.
I think sitting as a part-time judge would be fantastic experience for a commercial solicitor, especially on the road to partnership, and allow me to see processes, cases, clients, etc. from a fresh point of view. Once established as an Associate, I think it would be great to sit as a judge for a few days a year. A valuable learning and professional development experience that would make me a more rounded lawyer.
However, I wonder about whether I should mention any of this in VS/TC applications. It would only be one or two sentences in my application, to demonstrate long-term plans and passion for the law. But might this kind of thing be off-putting for some law firm recruitment teams?
Thanks for any thoughts about this.
Thank you for this! I spoke to a trainee at a networking event who applied to five firms and got two VS offers. Of course, there will be people who applied to 100 and got 1, and there will be people who applied to 10 and got 5. It’s different for everyone. However, I don’t think it’s an absolute must to apply to 50+ firms if you are putting a lot of time and effort into each application.For anyone who is stressed they haven’t written enough applications most trainees I’ve spoken to submitted under 20, and lots submitted fewer than 10. I’ve only submitted 8 this year, and have an AC at HL (not heard back from the others yet). Obviously the process is VERY luck based, and the more apps you do the better your odds, but spending more time on fewer apps is a just as valid route to pick. Ultimately, it just comes down to personal preference and the time you have available.
are HL sending ACs already o.o!!! congrats!! trainees gave me similar numbers and I think I've sent off 15 apps in total, I just dont see how it's possible to do loads properly they take me a while!! especially when friends are checking them and stuffFor anyone who is stressed they haven’t written enough applications most trainees I’ve spoken to submitted under 20, and lots submitted fewer than 10. I’ve only submitted 8 this year, and have an AC at HL (not heard back from the others yet). Obviously the process is VERY luck based, and the more apps you do the better your odds, but spending more time on fewer apps is a just as valid route to pick. Ultimately, it just comes down to personal preference and the time you have available.
Sorry, should have clarified, I got it through the lift off programme.are HL sending ACs already o.o!!! congrats!! trainees gave me similar numbers and I think I've sent off 15 apps in total, I just dont see how it's possible to do loads properly they take me a while!! especially when friends are checking them and stuff
Damn I’m waiting for mine. Also applied on deadlineReed Smith PFO post app lmao. At least I finally got an update from a firm. Maybe applying on the day of the deadline wasn’t such a bright idea.
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I’m applying to less than 10 this year. I know it’s partly a numbers game, but I can’t just apply to any firm for the sake of a training contact. I have to genuinely like the firm, otherwise I won’t spend the time applying. It’s a waste of my time as I know I’ll put in a weak application if I’m applying for the sake of numbers.