Hi @noahsmiit01 the majority of firms will only really care about your overall degree result. If that is at least a 2.1, or a strong 2.1 for the more competitive firms, it should not be a significant barrier. Besides the overall result, the firms will place some weigh on both progression and individual module results. Progression matters to recruiters because it can indicate qualities and skills the firm is looking for - e.g. learning from mistakes, resilience, striving to improve etc. Individual module results can matter because they may indicate where your strengths and interests lie - i.e. if you score poorly in all the more commercial-focused modules (say, contract, company, property), that may be a red flag.@Abbie Whitlock @Andrei Radu @ZNadeem
I am currently in my final year and achieved an overall 2:1 in my first year. While two of my first-year modules were high 2:2s, my other three were strong 2:1s, and during my second year, I have consistently achieved high 2:1 and First-Class grades.
I wanted to ask whether law firms place significant weight on individual first-year module results or whether they assess academic performance based on overall grade progression and most recent results, especially given the fact that it was only the first year, which doesn't even count. If so, then so that I know, apart from Slaughers and Cleary, what firms have a strict informal general policy?
Thank you
I think the best approach for why the firm questions is the following:@ZNadeem @Andrei Radu For standard, 'Why this firm' qs, what is the best approach to answer these types of questions that maintains specificity and conciseness?
Also, what would be a good angle to approach this question if a firm is PE heavy if, I have only done a few Forage courses in this area? Is there any other ways I could evidence my interest in this area, apart from being an avid reader of different newsletters?- Despite having it, I find it a little difficult to demonstrate interest in these areas in applications generally, so would massively appreciate your insights!
Thank you in advance!
Also, in case this may be useful, I thought to copy bellow a section of my successful Willkie application where I discussed an interest in PE. As you can see here, a very concise explanation of you interest can also suffice:@ZNadeem @Andrei Radu For standard, 'Why this firm' qs, what is the best approach to answer these types of questions that maintains specificity and conciseness?
Also, what would be a good angle to approach this question if a firm is PE heavy if, I have only done a few Forage courses in this area? Is there any other ways I could evidence my interest in this area, apart from being an avid reader of different newsletters?- Despite having it, I find it a little difficult to demonstrate interest in these areas in applications generally, so would massively appreciate your insights!
Thank you in advance!
Can you clarify what you mean by no long answer questions? I didn't have to answer any questions, not even a personal statement. View attachment 7282
Thanks! But what a shame... Seems everyone just judges by SJTs nowFreshfield's confirmed via a pre-launch webinar thingy that I attended the other day that they have changed the application process quite significantly. Instead of long answer questions, there is only an initial application form with work experience etc and then an online assessment (which I believe is like a mix of critical reasoning and SJT type questions with a few video questions thrown in as well) and then, if successful, an AC. They have a preparation portal on their early careers website (like Hogan Lovells) and the whole thing is ran by Cappfinity I believe.
Me- tried to apply for the VS, I applied for the DTC last cycle and it says I can’t apply for both. Will email GRHas anyone else had a problem with getting through the White and Case application?
Thanks Andrei! Super helpful to see a worked example!!Also, in case this may be useful, I thought to copy bellow a section of my successful Willkie application where I discussed an interest in PE. As you can see here, a very concise explanation of you interest can also suffice:
The first reason why I am applying to Willkie Farr & Gallagher (Willkie) is its unique position as a US firm with strong transactional and contentious practices. Having enjoyed learning about businesses in two M&A-focused Virtual Experiences, I am attracted by the firm’s PE expertise. In an Open Day Philip Coletto explained that the sector-agnostic approach means trainees are exposed to a diverse range of transactions, developing into more versatile and commercially aware lawyers. However, in my summer internship at DLA Piper I also enjoyed conducting research into niche areas of the law to construct arguments for commercial litigations. Training at Willkie would enable me to also explore my interest in disputes and thus to make an informed decision when qualifying.
Where do you find these events?Freshfield's confirmed via a pre-launch webinar thingy that I attended the other day that they have changed the application process quite significantly. Instead of long answer questions, there is only an initial application form with work experience etc and then an online assessment (which I believe is like a mix of critical reasoning and SJT type questions with a few video questions thrown in as well) and then, if successful, an AC. They have a preparation portal on their early careers website (like Hogan Lovells) and the whole thing is ran by Cappfinity I believe.
Hey,Does anyone have any insights into the Hogan Lovells job simulation assessment? Especially re: what types of video questions to prepare for, I.e. should I prepare for motivational based questions or more skills/situation based?
There’s no VI just the job simulation test and a WG-like test as part of it.Does anyone have any insights into the Hogan Lovells job simulation assessment? Especially re: what types of video questions to prepare for, I.e. should I prepare for motivational based questions or more skills/situation based?
I emailed grad rec a while ago to enquire about reasonable adjustments for the winter vac scheme and they informed me that they weren't running it this year but then sent me a link to the online pre-launch event thingy for the new application processWhere do you find these events?
While I have not personally been in this situation, I have definitely heard of people misspelling the name of their firm once or twice and still getting through. While it's difficult to say how the firm will react in your situation, given that the HSF-Kramer merger was only completed last year, there are reasons to think you may not be immediately disqualified if the rest of your application is strong.I submitted my HSF Kramer application, and as soon as I submitted it I realised that in one of responses to the application question, I consistently refer to the firm as just "HSF." I honestly have no idea how I missed that, and I’m really gutted about it especially as I think the rest of my application is strong and spent the last week writing it. It's so frustrating to think that this mistake probably means I won’t have a chance of passing the application review. Has anyone made a similar error and got through?
In the question, they refer to themselves as HSF: Why are you interested in pursuing a career at HSF (300words). So I can't imagine it'd be a problem - they've done it.I submitted my HSF Kramer application, and as soon as I submitted it I realised that in one of responses to the application question, I consistently refer to the firm as just "HSF." I honestly have no idea how I missed that, and I’m really gutted about it especially as I think the rest of my application is strong and spent the last week writing it. It's so frustrating to think that this mistake probably means I won’t have a chance of passing the application review. Has anyone made a similar error and got through?
"Do as we say, not as we do" kinda vibesIn the question, they refer to themselves as HSF: Why are you interested in pursuing a career at HSF (300words). So I can't imagine it'd be a problem - they've done it.