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Hi @flower1 in terms of actual concepts for competition law, I would break this down as the following:Hello @Andrei Radu @Abbie Whitlock @Afraz Akhtar
I was wondering with regard for antitrust / competition law - what's the pure substantive things we should know about for ACs? I don't mean like connecting to broader trends, but rather like actual concepts / content?
Thank you
This might sound a bit silly, but how do people manage feelings of imposter syndrome during a vacation scheme? Some people are naturally very confident socially, and I sometimes feel out of place at London open days and insight events, especially with a northern accent. What are the best ways to overcome that? I think it's mostly psychological rather than actually being able to do anything about it.
Any insights? @Afraz Akhtar @Abbie Whitlock @Andrei Radu
what do brits think of an american accentI relate to this personally as a fellow northerner hahaha. It’s difficult and the imposter syndrome is real. It’s mostly psychological but people have had awful experiences by being told to ‘change’ their accent if they want a successful legal career. It’s probably an indication of that firm’s culture if the lawyers there say stuff like that tbh. I think as of recent, accent bias training is becoming more prevalent and especially at firms that partner with rare recruitment, it should be less bad. As a result, I’ve found interacting with lawyers actually ends up being a positive, as it turns out many of them are also northern and/or socially mobile! To overcome it, just know you’re in those rooms cos you earned it and you belong there too!
When I went to the Weil Oct insight day, as I was leaving, I bumped into someone in the lift who obvs at the time I didn’t know who they were. We were both chatting away about my experience at the open day and my interest in Weil for about 10 mins. Then they dropped a major bomb: he was in fact an insolvency disputes and restructuring partner at the firm, and he was also northern! Genuinely it was that interaction that boosted my confidence knowing that I can and should be able to speak freely and not worry about potential accent biases cos I’m northern. He was acc so unfazed by me calling him lad and mate the entire conversation without realising he’s a partner lmfao. 😂😂
Sorry for the essay I’ve just written lad idfk how I’ve managed to write so much haha. Hopefully this helps and pls dw about being northern. Own it!
a lot of brits don't like them generally, but in professional circles like law it's perfectly fine and quite common. If not actually american/canadian, we have a huge number of students from british international schools who tend to develop an american-ish accent. Also lots of international students generally, especially from countries like Hong Kong tend to have a similar accent too,what do brits think of an american accent
ok sweet perfect! good to know. also did notknow our accents werent liked more generallya lot of brits don't like them generally, but in professional circles like law it's perfectly fine and quite common. If not actually american/canadian, we have a huge number of students from british international schools who tend to develop an american-ish accent. Also lots of international students generally, especially from countries like Hong Kong tend to have a similar accent too,
hi! can i know ur grades/academics + uni (not name) if that's OK?
Assuming you are applying to London. Short answer. No. The city is built on multi-culturalism. You are clearly a native speaker. "Sounding foreign" isn't a thing, not outwardly anyway. You may need to navigate subconcious racism, but this is the exception and not the norm. The reason you may only see British/American/Australian accents are firm events is because these are the most commonly represented people at UK law firms. Either those who have made the relatively easy transition from common law jurisdictions, or those who have moved from the US to work for satellite firms in the UK. You will probably encounter many people who won't have grown up/aren't English/American/Australian, and a lot of firms will expect you to be open minded to working with their offices in other jurisdictions, where people can sound very different to one another. Multi-culturalism is a strength in the eyes of international law firms, not a representation of your ability.Hey guys, kind of a random question but building onto the query above; I'm not a native English speaker although I'm 100% fluent in the language (scored 8.5 in the IELTS, I literally study English Lit in uni lol) and I've grown up in a very international environment in Asia so I have a bit of a mix of accents (imagine an American accent with a hint of Canadian / Asian) and it's not definitively any one of them. Would firms care about this / impact me any way in interview processes / or believe this to be reflective of my English-speaking abilities? I know from legal events I've attended that accents of trainees & associates are indeed diverse but I've also found that the "diversity" is contained within native English-speaker accents like British/American/Australian and rarely ever anything else. Sometimes I'd see people from Hong Kong / Singapore but I'm not from those parts of Asia either so I do fear that my accent may sound a little foreign to firms.
No, I know people with exactly the same background as you described who are trainees/future trainees at my firm and other firms too. Firms are very used to this these days and I don't imagine this will generally be an issue at all!Hey guys, kind of a random question but building onto the query above; I'm not a native English speaker although I'm 100% fluent in the language (scored 8.5 in the IELTS, I literally study English Lit in uni lol) and I've grown up in a very international environment in Asia so I have a bit of a mix of accents (imagine an American accent with a hint of Canadian / Asian) and it's not definitively any one of them. Would firms care about this / impact me any way in interview processes / or believe this to be reflective of my English-speaking abilities? I know from legal events I've attended that accents of trainees & associates are indeed diverse but I've also found that the "diversity" is contained within native English-speaker accents like British/American/Australian and rarely ever anything else. Sometimes I'd see people from Hong Kong / Singapore but I'm not from those parts of Asia either so I do fear that my accent may sound a little foreign to firms.
This might sound a bit silly, but how do people manage feelings of imposter syndrome during a vacation scheme? Some people are naturally very confident socially, and I sometimes feel out of place at London open days and insight events, especially with a northern accent. What are the best ways to overcome that? I think it's mostly psychological rather than actually being able to do anything about it.
Any insights? @Afraz Akhtar @Abbie Whitlock @Andrei Radu
Hey @Lord Sumption and @wrpark hope you're having a lovely Christmas, just thought I'd chime in with a response to this. Personally, I've never seen this to be an issue. Having worked in a few legal settings over the last 5 years (whether that be international firms, magic circle firms, and even in-house institutions), I have had the chance to work with people who sound nothing like me e.g. Vietnamese accent, French accent, Indian accents etc. During my time at these places, they were never written out of anything and took on managerial or senior positions. I too myself have a little bit of a Yorkshire accent.Hey guys, kind of a random question but building onto the query above; I'm not a native English speaker although I'm 100% fluent in the language (scored 8.5 in the IELTS, I literally study English Lit in uni lol) and I've grown up in a very international environment in Asia so I have a bit of a mix of accents (imagine an American accent with a hint of Canadian / Asian) and it's not definitively any one of them. Would firms care about this / impact me any way in interview processes / or believe this to be reflective of my English-speaking abilities? I know from legal events I've attended that accents of trainees & associates are indeed diverse but I've also found that the "diversity" is contained within native English-speaker accents like British/American/Australian and rarely ever anything else. Sometimes I'd see people from Hong Kong / Singapore but I'm not from those parts of Asia either so I do fear that my accent may sound a little foreign to firms.
Hey, have you heard back from Simmons for the AI internship after the test?Could anyone share some insights about Goodwin’s video interview? I would be happy to exchange information on Simmons & Simmons’ AI internship in return.