I’ve just received mine - got jumpscared with a text and email! Best of luck!Congrats!! Did you get your invite just now? I’m lowkey preparing myself for the dreaded pfo email😭
Any tips from anyone would be appreciated! ☺️
I’ve just received mine - got jumpscared with a text and email! Best of luck!Congrats!! Did you get your invite just now? I’m lowkey preparing myself for the dreaded pfo email😭
Thanks! and yeah literally got it about 15 mins ago!Congrats!! Did you get your invite just now? I’m lowkey preparing myself for the dreaded pfo email😭
Hello!!Good morning Abbie!! Just had a follow-up question on this, but I'm mindful of not clogging the thread - would it be okay if I could PM you to ask your thoughts?
Thank you so much! 🙏
Hi! I'm not Abbie but have sat the Freshfields VI as well as others so thought to give my insight! I hope you don't mind. Prepare your motivational questions, you should have a solid understanding of why you want to work there, whether it be culture, practice area and/or training quality. Be quite specific about these, the more genuine you sound the better. Secondly, be honest and be yourself. The people reviewing the VI know that you likely won't have any idea the absolute most correct way to answer the questions, but by presenting yourself genuinely and honestly you set yourself up for success and come across as someone willing to learn and be adaptable.Hi! This is my first few times doing a VI stage, I am doing one for Freshfields! Does anyone have insights/advice about VIs and the Freshfields one in particular? Thanks!
@Abbie Whitlock
Hey guys, my mate and I were discussing about their TC decision that I would love to hear your thoughts as I’m personally on a different path (my goal is mid size firms with niche seats so I don’t really have much to contribute).
For context, my mate got an offer from a US firm. But the thing is - this US firm is not the “popular” ones like Kirkland/latham/etc. I do see people applying to this US firm on here but tbf it is quite under-hyped for its reputation. My mate’s current career has people moving in TCs all the time, and they always move to Magic Circle firms for their TCs. Their concern is whether it would be an issue with moving firms from “non-popular” US firm and whether the “reputation” is comparable to MCs?
I appreciate all constructive discussions but please refrain from comments like “your mate should be grateful etc etc”. I have seen my mate work hard and build their CV so please be nice.
I know many will ask and I received permission to share about my mate’s background: did law, initially did not pursue law as progression at their current role was promised to be quicker, pivoting back as their role was not as fast-paced/challenging.
Side note (for myself!) anyone heard back from IM?
Hey guys, my mate and I were discussing about their TC decision that I would love to hear your thoughts as I’m personally on a different path (my goal is mid size firms with niche seats so I don’t really have much to contribute).
For context, my mate got an offer from a US firm. But the thing is - this US firm is not the “popular” ones like Kirkland/latham/etc. I do see people applying to this US firm on here but tbf it is quite under-hyped for its reputation. My mate’s current career has people moving in TCs all the time, and they always move to Magic Circle firms for their TCs. Their concern is whether it would be an issue with moving firms from “non-popular” US firm and whether the “reputation” is comparable to MCs?
I appreciate all constructive discussions but please refrain from comments like “your mate should be grateful etc etc”. I have seen my mate work hard and build their CV so please be nice.
I know many will ask and I received permission to share about my mate’s background: did law, initially did not pursue law as progression at their current role was promised to be quicker, pivoting back as their role was not as fast-paced/challenging.
Side note (for myself!) anyone heard back from IM?
Just like what @qaz99 said, it does depend on market conditions at the time. Additionally, it also depends on their experiences within the firm. They don't need to have worked with market leading clients to show that they've done similar work as other firms. In fact, a good portion of Kirkland's associate recruits are from an international small firms that most may not have heard of. This won't always be the case, there are times where lateral hires are required to have come from prestigious firms but if your experience is top tier, and the work you've done is top tier, then why would any firm who wants to make a return on your salary reject you if you can showcase how profitable you are? My best advice is for your friend to leverage agencies like Career Legal in the second year of their TC to discuss potential options for lateral hires.It depends on a mix of what practice area they qualify in, the market conditions at the time of their qualification/when they want to move, and the firm's ranking in that specific practice area. I heard (anecdotal but from a lawyer at a US firm) that when PE was booming there was a lot of mobility even between firms you wouldn't necessarily expect that have a strong PE practice.
Also, what do you mean by 'under-hyped for its reputation'?
Thanks for your input - i agree that it’s ultimately more of a practice area + performance dependant. I have seen people who worked in high street firms move to very highly ranked/band firms.I think it could depend on a combination of the practice area in which they qualify, the market conditions at the time of their qualification/when they wish to move, and the firm's ranking (or reputation) in that specific practice area. I heard (anecdotal but from a lawyer at a US firm) that when PE was booming there was a lot of mobility even between firms you wouldn't necessarily expect
Also, what do you mean by 'under-hyped for its reputation'?
You shouldnt chose a TC based on what is “hyped up” by candidates. In the long run it really doesn’t matter if the firm aligns with your interests and is ranked well.Thanks for your input - i agree that it’s ultimately more of a practice area + performance dependant. I have seen people who worked in high street firms move to very highly ranked/band firms.
Re under-hyped for its reputation, it’s a good firm, good pay (would say it’s MC-level) and ranked pretty well. But no one really talks about this firm 😂 I have seen students talking about the firm like it’s their ‘second’ choice of US firm.
Is it possible to share exactly which firm it is? Otherwise, I think that if it's a US firm, can match MC pay, and is ranked pretty well, it should be a pretty good springboard into just about any firm in the City. Of course, this is just speculation on my part, though, but I wouldn't worry except about market conditions as others have mentioned.Thanks for your input - i agree that it’s ultimately more of a practice area + performance dependant. I have seen people who worked in high street firms move to very highly ranked/band firms.
Re under-hyped for its reputation, it’s a good firm, good pay (would say it’s MC-level) and ranked pretty well. But no one really talks about this firm 😂 I have seen students talking about the firm like it’s their ‘second’ choice of US firm.
Thanks for your input - i agree that it’s ultimately more of a practice area + performance dependant. I have seen people who worked in high street firms move to very highly ranked/band firms.
Re under-hyped for its reputation, it’s a good firm, good pay (would say it’s MC-level) and ranked pretty well. But no one really talks about this firm 😂 I have seen students talking about the firm like it’s their ‘second’ choice of US firm.
DTC applicants haven't heard back from K&E yet, based on last year's timeline it is going to be sent to us in late January.the VI is the same tho isn't it?
oh wow no way?? that's crazy late omg I thought TCs were done pretty early at K&E, guess I was wrongDTC applicants haven't heard back from K&E yet, based on last year's timeline it is going to be sent to us in late January.
Thank you so much! This is so helpfulHi! I'm not Abbie but have sat the Freshfields VI as well as others so thought to give my insight! I hope you don't mind. Prepare your motivational questions, you should have a solid understanding of why you want to work there, whether it be culture, practice area and/or training quality. Be quite specific about these, the more genuine you sound the better. Secondly, be honest and be yourself. The people reviewing the VI know that you likely won't have any idea the absolute most correct way to answer the questions, but by presenting yourself genuinely and honestly you set yourself up for success and come across as someone willing to learn and be adaptable.
Generally, most VI's wont be solely video questions, they will comprise a majority of "what would you do in x situation" questions, some written answers like drafting emails to clients and so on, and between 4-5 VI questions. The video questions are designed to test how you are in front of a client, presenting information in a clear and concise information, and can be used to test your commercial awareness by putting you on the spot and unable to consult notes.
The video questions will be the most stressful, so don't forget to breathe and have a glass of water so you don't sound raspy. Dress smart, answer smart. You're in front of the camera so that they can get to know you, how you think and how you perform under pressure. Think of it as if you are answering questions from a partner in the pub, be formal, but you're not a robot. Try not to refer to your previous experience unless you think it's necessary/related to the question you are answering. Answering with name-dropped experience in a question about why you want to work at Freshfields may come across the wrong way, but referring to previous experience observations in a commercial awareness questions would be appropriate.
Don't forget to breathe during your answers, it is totally acceptable to pause, think, then answer. You will feel the need to rush answers but it is quality not quantity of information provided. Focusing on one topic in detail rather than many can often demonstrate both genuine aspiration and that you are able to operate in a calm and grounded manner.
Finally, always remember to smile, you have made it further than most! You should be proud of advancing this far and that pride should come across! GR want you to be proud of working at Freshfields, so treat it as a little kid in a candy shop. Good luck! Have fun! It should be enjoyable even if you are nervous.