Panicked pressing submit on my Simmons and Simmons app - I have now received 5 confirmation emails....oops
“Yes” I say as I reflect on my past realisationIs Bakers SJT and VI selective?
I found GraduatesFirst's WG practice quite useful! Is there a specific section you find challenging?Does anyone have solid WG tips or practice tests. I feel like I have done so many and I am still not really improving.
Really desperate for any help lmao
The most old fashioned portal and poor service desk (slow respond), I had to let my Simmons app unsubmited.Is CvMail that bad of a system?
Similar to my experience, Ashurst CVmail is the same as Simmons, idk why it doesn't allow me to submit my app unlike Sidley and Kirkland.I tried registering for a few the other day but then it redirected me to CvMail… I decided I cba cos I was not about to deal with that at all lmao…
The same level as Clifford Chance, as both timed and used the same provider, PearsonIf anyone has attempted the winston & strawn WG already, would like to know about the difficulty level if possible?
Why 2 different PFO's to say essentially the same thing? to copy and paste:Mine said “Whilst your application was certainly impressive…”
Okay, then give me the place on the open day given my app was so impressive 🧐
Hi! Do you have any insights into the Trowers Hamlins AC? Also how did you find it? Do you have any tips on how to prepare? Congrats again for managing to complete it!In-person AC at Trowers today.. not sure how to feel after that!
Thx for giving me a hope, but Sidley just sent me a PFO, 133 days! This cycle taught me that submitting last minute is better though it's rolling.I had 5 months from AG once who then gave me 3 days to do their VI
Whilst working as a paralegal may be helpful for future applications, they're not a guarantee that you'll secure a training contract. If you are struggling for money, I would suggest broadening your search to include other roles and industries. You don't have to work directly in the legal industry to have exposure to it and to gain the skills, experience and attributes needed to be successful at landing a training contract.Hi @Abbie Whitlock @Andrei Radu (and everyone else), I could really use some honest advice, and sorry in advance for how long this is.
Last year (after graduating) I focused fully on TC applications. I made 7 applications and reached 3 assessment centres, but was ultimately rejected. The feedback was mainly that my answers were too long and I lacked commercial awareness.
I was upset, but also encouraged bc I believed that 3 ACs from 7 applications suggested my academics/profile were competitive. So I moved to London, tried to secure a paralegal/legal role, and when that didn’t work out I took a part-time retail job and dedicated my time to improving for this cycle.
This year I submitted 17 applications and only got 1 interview and then got rejected (Skadden). I’m still waiting for feedback, but honestly I feel crushed. It genuinely feels like I went backwards despite putting in far more effort.
Since last year I have:
• completed an internship at Barclays
• paid for application review support + mock interviews
• refined my CV/ work experience section multiple times
• improved my answers and structure
• actively worked on commercial awareness
I truly believe this year’s applications were significantly stronger than last year’s, yet the results were dramatically worse.
I also had interviews last year with Gibson Dunn and White & Case and was told reapplying would be fine and prior applications/ interview performance wouldn’t affect any future ones. However, Gibson Dunn (applied November) hasn’t responded at all despite follow-ups, which has been particularly discouraging as they and Skadden are my top firms. I also completed the VI for White & Case in December and still haven’t heard back, even though candidates who completed it later have already been invited to ACs/ received PFOs.
At the same time I’m struggling financially in London on a part-time retail salary and cannot seem to land a paralegal role. Everything requires experience. I’ve applied through agencies, cold-emailed, called firms, sent speculative applications and nothing has worked.
So I’d really appreciate advice on three things:
I want to be clear: I’m not looking for sympathy, just honest guidance on what to change because clearly something isn’t working.
- How can I realistically obtain a paralegal/legal role with no past experience?
- What should I be doing between now and next cycle beyond daily commercial awareness study + interview practice + completing TCLA courses?
- Do firms genuinely review your application if you have previously interviewed? I am especially concerned about Skadden and Gibson Dunn, as these are genuinely my dream firms.
- I know this is wrong and not advisable, but could I apply with a new email and not disclose that I have previously interviewed? Since I’ll be changing my last name this year (for unrelated reasons, I promise I am not crazy), would that make it harder for firms to connect me to my previous applications? I appreciate this may not be the right approach, I’m just feeling stuck and trying to understand my options.
Thank you to anyone who reads all of this/ offers any advice, I really appreciate it
I applied on the 3rd and haven't heardAnybody who applied to Sidley around the 1st Jan heard ?
I'm sorry to hear thisWedlake Bell PFO. Oh well, I wouldn't last at a firm whose diversity profile looks identical to an unprinted paper anyway 🙏🙏🙏
This is post app. Best of luckI'm sorry to hear this( what stage was this at if you don't mind me asking? good luck for all your other apps 🤞