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Hi Alice!

Thank you so much for your answers on this forum, they've been so helpful!

I attended a couple of Freshfields Focus Events earlier this year during which the graduate recruitment team really emphasised that we should "show not tell" on our applications. I was wondering if you had any advice on how to best to do that? I am currently working on my personal statement and I often feel the need to say: "I have strong x skills which I have developed through x experience during which I did x." I'm worried that it's too much 'telling" especially because I'm struggling with the word count right now but I'm also not sure how else to demonstrate relevant skills.
 
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Hi Alice!

Thank you so much for your answers on this forum, they've been so helpful!

I attended a couple of Freshfields Focus Events earlier this year during which the graduate recruitment team really emphasised that we should "show not tell" on our applications. I was wondering if you had any advice on how to best to do that? I am currently working on my personal statement and I often feel the need to say: "I have strong x skills which I have developed through x experience during which I did x." I'm worried that it's too much 'telling" especially because I'm struggling with the word count right now but I'm also not sure how else to demonstrate relevant skills.
Hi Anna, thank you so much!

This is quite tricky and you are right to ask for clarity! I think your example above is a little bit too 'tell' - I think really what they mean, when you are doing your 'why you' response sections is try to pick out just a couple of key skills or attributes and evidence them with experience but you don't need to tell them every skill that is borne out of an experience. So, for example, i picked out one key thing i wanted to discuss and gave examples of when I had worked in a situation which enhanced that particular attribute but I did not list every other attribute inherent to that experience. I did find this 'show not tell' approach quite tricky but I think the heart of it is that firms don't want to read really formulaic answers and saying I have XYZ skills from XYZ can sometimes lend to relatively disengaging writing. Try to pick a couple of key skills you want to showcase and try to compel that through experience but without being as explicit as the example you give above.
 
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Hey Alice!

Me again... lol!

Hope you're doing well! And your loved ones are happy, safe and healthy!

I saw that you responded to @cgs97's thread on checking out of the TC process. I'm feeling the same too.

My biggest concern is that I'm also a graduate (Law 2018). I'm 24 and I've also been working full time since I graduated non-stop. I know that I can bring a wealth of skills and developments to a Firm but I'm concerned that maybe I'm getting too old for the process and candidates much younger academically are more desirable?

I read that you didn't consider law until 18 months after graduation and so, I was hoping whether you'd be able to give me your thoughts and insights about being "less desirable" in the process? It'd be good to hear your own story in that regard too.

Thanks! <3
 
Hey Alice!

Me again... lol!

Hope you're doing well! And your loved ones are happy, safe and healthy!

I saw that you responded to @cgs97's thread on checking out of the TC process. I'm feeling the same too.

My biggest concern is that I'm also a graduate (Law 2018). I'm 24 and I've also been working full time since I graduated non-stop. I know that I can bring a wealth of skills and developments to a Firm but I'm concerned that maybe I'm getting too old for the process and candidates much younger academically are more desirable?

I read that you didn't consider law until 18 months after graduation and so, I was hoping whether you'd be able to give me your thoughts and insights about being "less desirable" in the process? It'd be good to hear your own story in that regard too.

Thanks! <3

Hi,

Sorry I'm not Alice but thought I'd jump in on this!

It might be worth checking out the threads below for some inspiration. There are a lot of success stories of people who have applied later in life and been successful. For example, I did my vac scheme at the age of 25 and secured a TC from it, meaning I won't qualify until just before turning 30!

The threads below will provide you with more info/experiences but the consistent theme seems to be that career changers or candidates who have taken a few years out are still welcomed by many firms.

https://www.thecorporatelawacademy.com/forum/threads/career-changer-straight-to-tc.1966/
https://www.thecorporatelawacademy.com/forum/threads/career-change-success-stories.2684/
 
Hey Alice!

Me again... lol!

Hope you're doing well! And your loved ones are happy, safe and healthy!

I saw that you responded to @cgs97's thread on checking out of the TC process. I'm feeling the same too.

My biggest concern is that I'm also a graduate (Law 2018). I'm 24 and I've also been working full time since I graduated non-stop. I know that I can bring a wealth of skills and developments to a Firm but I'm concerned that maybe I'm getting too old for the process and candidates much younger academically are more desirable?

I read that you didn't consider law until 18 months after graduation and so, I was hoping whether you'd be able to give me your thoughts and insights about being "less desirable" in the process? It'd be good to hear your own story in that regard too.

Thanks! <3

Freshfields have taken trainees on who are/were in their 40s. I recruited several who were in their 30s. Age will really not be an issue.
 
Hey Alice!

Me again... lol!

Hope you're doing well! And your loved ones are happy, safe and healthy!

I saw that you responded to @cgs97's thread on checking out of the TC process. I'm feeling the same too.

My biggest concern is that I'm also a graduate (Law 2018). I'm 24 and I've also been working full time since I graduated non-stop. I know that I can bring a wealth of skills and developments to a Firm but I'm concerned that maybe I'm getting too old for the process and candidates much younger academically are more desirable?

I read that you didn't consider law until 18 months after graduation and so, I was hoping whether you'd be able to give me your thoughts and insights about being "less desirable" in the process? It'd be good to hear your own story in that regard too.

Thanks! <3
Hey! No worries at all - I secured my TC at 24 and I have met a lot of career changers, a number of them who I am very lucky to call friends and I am very much of the belief having a bit more 'life experience' isn't a bad thing at all! I think you just need to back yourself and try not to let this worry you - if I am totally honest, and echoing what @Jessica Booker has said, I really doubt firms even consider age as they are just interested in seeing what you have done and what makes you unique! Have confidence and you are still very young still don't forget! :)
 
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Hi Alice,

Hope you are doing well.

I am currently preparing my Freshfields application, and was wondering whether you have any particular tips for the work experience section, as I cannot find any word limit/requirements. Would you once again 'show, not tell' the skills you gained from a certain internship/part-time work, or would you treat it more as a general description of what the role entailed? Thank you!

Thank you!
 
Hi @Alice G, Hi @Jessica Booker

I have a somewhat similar question to @kn2812 above re the work experience section for my Freshfields application. In the past, I used to mention the type of skills I have learned and would then go on to explain what I exactly did in the role that helped me develop the mentioned skill. As Freshfields takes the 'show not tell' approach, would you recommend not mentioning the skills I learned but solely focusing on what I exactly did? I know the application deadline is next week, so any help is much appreciated! :) Happy new year btw!!
 
Hi @Alice G, Hi @Jessica Booker

I have a somewhat similar question to @kn2812 above re the work experience section for my Freshfields application. In the past, I used to mention the type of skills I have learned and would then go on to explain what I exactly did in the role that helped me develop the mentioned skill. As Freshfields takes the 'show not tell' approach, would you recommend not mentioning the skills I learned but solely focusing on what I exactly did? I know the application deadline is next week, so any help is much appreciated! :) Happy new year btw!!

Yeah - Freshfields used to take the approach that they were switched on in most cases to be able to infer the skills, they were far more interested in what you did/what you got out of it.
 
Hi @Alice G, Hi @Jessica Booker

I have a somewhat similar question to @kn2812 above re the work experience section for my Freshfields application. In the past, I used to mention the type of skills I have learned and would then go on to explain what I exactly did in the role that helped me develop the mentioned skill. As Freshfields takes the 'show not tell' approach, would you recommend not mentioning the skills I learned but solely focusing on what I exactly did? I know the application deadline is next week, so any help is much appreciated! :) Happy new year btw!!
Hi Alice,

Hope you are doing well.

I am currently preparing my Freshfields application, and was wondering whether you have any particular tips for the work experience section, as I cannot find any word limit/requirements. Would you once again 'show, not tell' the skills you gained from a certain internship/part-time work, or would you treat it more as a general description of what the role entailed? Thank you!

Thank you!
Hello both! @Jessica Booker is right - treat it the same as every firm - tease out what you did, what you learned and the key skills :)
 
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Hi there,

So asides from article interviews I only ever prepared for M&A case studies. @Jessica Booker has duly noted that not all case studies are M&A case studies so please do remember that this advice is catered to M&A.

1. Start reading commercial news for ten minutes a day and be consistent. Strong candidates will support their points in case study interviews with real-life examples. so, if you recognise a competition concern in a case study you might want to reference something like the failed Sainsburys/Asda merger to substantiate and strengthen a point.

2. Look at the departments in law firms and understand what each of them does. This will allow you to go into the case study with a framework through which to think. If you remember about IP departments in law firms then your mind will trigger you to think about branding concerns or patents in a case study even if it is not explicit or obvious - this will show the interviewer you can think more broadly and beyond the scope of what is written if required. If you remember about disputes, then you might be better attuned if you read something which might subtly hint at a litigious claim.

3. Try to read thought leadership pieces and listen to podcasts about the trends and themes in certain departments: for competition you might want to explore the increasingly interventionist nature of competition authorities and think about the impact this can have - by mentioning these topical issues you can make yourself stand out. For M&A, you might want to look at shareholder activism and the impact of this too. There are many other issues and trends you can research which might give you helpful information which can be leveraged at the interview.

4. Look at share vs asset purchases.

5. Look at debt vs equity financing and understand the pros and cons of each and when they might be most appropriate

6. Look up the following and know what they are:

- warranties, indemnities and representations
- restrictive covenants i.e. non-compete and non-solicit clauses
- Look up what a non-disclosure agreement is and what heads of terms are.
- Look up a balance sheet and just try to become more comfortable with what this is and what it shows.

7. Practise writing out diagrams which explain an M&A deal - try to have an understanding of the different parties, who they are, their motives and what type of transaction it is (i.e. share or asset) and how the transaction is being funded.

8. On the above, always consider what the motives are of each party - this is really important to show your understanding

9. keep your client's interests in mind - you will no doubt need to make a decision on this proposed deal - whether to advise for or against. Always remember you are acting in the interests of your client so try to balance the opportunity with risk and offer solutions. So many candidates can issue spot, but really strong candidates are those who can recognise issues and risks and advise the client as to how these might be mitigated.

10. Look up SWOT and PESTLE as these can offer you some more frameworks in which to structure your analysis and opinion whether the case study is written or presented. Always leave 7-10 mins to consider your structure and to make sure you have an opinion as this is crucial.

11. Don't forget to look at the price and any financials - they won't be too tricky but just try your best to weigh up whether you think the price seems reasonable/fair or not and whether there are any financial imbalances/issues you can spot.


I really hope this helps and sorry these points aren't especially well or logically structured but I just tried to write everything I can remember preparing for case studies.

As a note, I would also caution against listening to the experiences of others too much when it comes to case studies. The key to being a standout candidate in these interviews is being able to spot the original points and nuances which others might miss or which might be easily overlooked. Going in with prior knowledge can potentially blind-side you to these issues :)

Hi @Alice G @Jessica Booker - Could you please advise?

1) Is this case study exercise the article review intereview? Because the present application process on FF's website only mentions the latter. Thank you

2) In relation to preparing for an answer to 'what commercial story has interested you'? I understand we're meant to only mention 1, but in general, how many commercial stories should we prepare and @Alice G did you beyond 3?

Thank you for your time!
 
Hi @Alice G @Jessica Booker - Could you please advise?

1) Is this case study exercise the article review intereview? Because the present application process on FF's website only mentions the latter. Thank you

2) In relation to preparing for an answer to 'what commercial story has interested you'? I understand we're meant to only mention 1, but in general, how many commercial stories should we prepare and @Alice G did you beyond 3?

Thank you for your time!
I’m pretty sure Alice was just giving general advice on M&A case studies, not for FBD in particular.

I personally would only prepare 1 or 2 stories. There is a risk of over preparation if you are doing too many - just pick one or two you are truly interested in. But that’s just my opinion on matters.
 
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Hi @Alice G @Jessica Booker - Could you please advise?

1) Is this case study exercise the article review intereview? Because the present application process on FF's website only mentions the latter. Thank you

2) In relation to preparing for an answer to 'what commercial story has interested you'? I understand we're meant to only mention 1, but in general, how many commercial stories should we prepare and @Alice G did you beyond 3?

Thank you for your time!
@Jessica Booker is correct, this was general advice and was not specific to Freshfields or any other firm.

I prepared two stories I knew in depth and followed closely in my final cycle and think that was manageable, I agree that any more might be a bit tricky to follow or know in the requisite depth. I’d also say you don’t want to have too many stories you know in depth at the detriment of having a good comprehensive knowledge of commercial developments and news.

I do hope this helps!
 
I’m pretty sure Alice was just giving general advice on M&A case studies, not for FBD in particular.

I personally would only prepare 1 or 2 stories. There is a risk of over preparation if you are doing too many - just pick one or two you are truly interested in. But that’s just my opinion on matters.
Understood, thank you for taking out the time on a Sunday night.
 
@Jessica Booker is correct, this was general advice and was not specific to Freshfields or any other firm.

I prepared two stories I knew in depth and followed closely in my final cycle and think that was manageable, I agree that any more might be a bit tricky to follow or know in the requisite depth. I’d also say you don’t want to have too many stories you know in depth at the detriment of having a good comprehensive knowledge of commercial developments and news.

I do hope this helps!
@Alice G


Thank you for replying on a Sunday!

Understood, so FF doesn't have a case study but only an article interview:

1) Is there a likelihood of articles on specific topics (specific political issues / M&A deals etc.) being asked. Because it could be any article – how did you ensure that you’re covering all bases.
[Presently, I scan the FT headlines and follow 2 stories in depth.]


2) I understand that you’re questioned on key concepts in the article [Franchise, Angel investor etc.] You advised that we must create bank of words from daily commercial reading and look them up, thanks J Also, are there any one-stop source(s) to the basic concepts that we must absolutely cover? I just don’t want to miss out on any basic concept - how to prep for this
[I have started with TLCA's "TCLA's Mastering the City Course"]

3) Your and Jessica’s answers on how to approach the article interview on the day was very helpful! Separately, in terms of preparation is there anything else you did for the article interview?
 
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Hi everyone,

I have had a lot of messages of late about how to prep for the FF AC and as I am sure you guys can appreciate, I can only give very general advice.

Here is a link to the firm website which delineates the process: https://ukgraduates.freshfields.com/how-do-i-apply/our-application-process. I actually think this page is really useful to people who may be doing interviews at any firm, not just FF, as I think it gives some really helpful insights and tips into how you can perform well.

Here is a link to where you can find what I wrote following my attendance of the non-law workshop in December 2019, before I even submitted my application, it contains some insights into what we heard about the assessment centre and very much echoes what is on the website I think. https://www.thecorporatelawacademy....erview-tips-2019-2020.1423/page-55#post-16889

I cannot offer any more advice about the AC itself but what I am happy to share is how I prepared:

In truth, I did not prepare anything specific for the written task as I did not know the form it would take or truly what to expect and so I thought it best with my time to focus more on the other two elements of the AC.

For the personal interview, I worked on my competency bank which is a table document I drew up which allowed me to input my experiences in the rows of the table and the columns were 'STARR' for 'situation', 'task', 'action', 'result', 'reflection'. In breaking this down into a table format I was able to keep to bullet points for each element of STARR and this helped me to become more concise and clear in practising my competency examples.
I also went back through my whole application and considered questions which might be asked, so if there was a grade perhaps which was lower than others I tried to consider why that might be. I also sought to consider my motivations behind undertaking each work experience I had done and what I enjoyed and found challenging about those experiences and did the same in considering my modules as well. I also went back through my personal statement with a fine toothed comb and tried to pre-empt what someone reading this for the first time might want to ask me about.
What I will say is the personal interview is very conversational and enjoyable - as cliche as it sounds, do just try to be yourself!

For the analytical interview, I printed off a couple of articles everyday in the lead up to my AC and would analyse them. When I was preparing for my Slaughters interview back in 2019, I was advised that a good technique with articles is to try and summarise what the article is about in a maximum of two sentences and to try to understand what the journalist is arguing and what their point of view might be. This can help to get your head around the article as a whole.
Once I did this, I would then look for all the words and concepts I had not grasped or understood in the article, especially if it was something technical. I have spoken of this before in general commercial awareness advice but what I did was build a bank of words and their corresponding definitions into a document and I would add words and phrases I was unsure of so I had a repository to revise from for technical interviews. My goal in doing so was that I would be able to understand technical words and concepts and feel comfortable discussing these.
Finally, as the website notes, the firm is trying to understand your business mind so try to read the articles you print through a 'commercial lens'.

My best advice with the analytical interview, which goes for all technical interviews at any firm, is to really try and see it as an exciting opportunity to have a chat with some incredible lawyers and to learn something. No one expects anyone to be perfect or faultless, just do your best, take your time, and try to relax and enjoy it.

I really hope these prep tips help.
 
Hi everyone,

I have had a lot of messages of late about how to prep for the FF AC and as I am sure you guys can appreciate, I can only give very general advice.

Here is a link to the firm website which delineates the process: https://ukgraduates.freshfields.com/how-do-i-apply/our-application-process. I actually think this page is really useful to people who may be doing interviews at any firm, not just FF, as I think it gives some really helpful insights and tips into how you can perform well.

Here is a link to where you can find what I wrote following my attendance of the non-law workshop in December 2019, before I even submitted my application, it contains some insights into what we heard about the assessment centre and very much echoes what is on the website I think. https://www.thecorporatelawacademy....erview-tips-2019-2020.1423/page-55#post-16889

I cannot offer any more advice about the AC itself but what I am happy to share is how I prepared:

In truth, I did not prepare anything specific for the written task as I did not know the form it would take or truly what to expect and so I thought it best with my time to focus more on the other two elements of the AC.

For the personal interview, I worked on my competency bank which is a table document I drew up which allowed me to input my experiences in the rows of the table and the columns were 'STARR' for 'situation', 'task', 'action', 'result', 'reflection'. In breaking this down into a table format I was able to keep to bullet points for each element of STARR and this helped me to become more concise and clear in practising my competency examples.
I also went back through my whole application and considered questions which might be asked, so if there was a grade perhaps which was lower than others I tried to consider why that might be. I also sought to consider my motivations behind undertaking each work experience I had done and what I enjoyed and found challenging about those experiences and did the same in considering my modules as well. I also went back through my personal statement with a fine toothed comb and tried to pre-empt what someone reading this for the first time might want to ask me about.
What I will say is the personal interview is very conversational and enjoyable - as cliche as it sounds, do just try to be yourself!

For the analytical interview, I printed off a couple of articles everyday in the lead up to my AC and would analyse them. When I was preparing for my Slaughters interview back in 2019, I was advised that a good technique with articles is to try and summarise what the article is about in a maximum of two sentences and to try to understand what the journalist is arguing and what their point of view might be. This can help to get your head around the article as a whole.
Once I did this, I would then look for all the words and concepts I had not grasped or understood in the article, especially if it was something technical. I have spoken of this before in general commercial awareness advice but what I did was build a bank of words and their corresponding definitions into a document and I would add words and phrases I was unsure of so I had a repository to revise from for technical interviews. My goal in doing so was that I would be able to understand technical words and concepts and feel comfortable discussing these.
Finally, as the website notes, the firm is trying to understand your business mind so try to read the articles you print through a 'commercial lens'.

My best advice with the analytical interview, which goes for all technical interviews at any firm, is to really try and see it as an exciting opportunity to have a chat with some incredible lawyers and to learn something. No one expects anyone to be perfect or faultless, just do your best, take your time, and try to relax and enjoy it.

I really hope these prep tips help.
Thank you Alice!! Were you asked any commercial questions within your general interview or were those reserved more for the analytical interview?
 
So I think one thing was my lack of confidence which I touched on in my previous post. I think on schemes it is important to have the faith that you are there for a reason and just trust in your intuition and your abilities when it comes to undertaking tasks. I also would say do not be afraid to ask for clarity and ask questions because it is best to do this and do so confidently than to go about a task doubting yourself and your approach.

The other thing for me was sadly a difficulty in presenting and speaking in front of people (it is very annoying as I am absolutely fine speaking to people usually but it is a stage fright issue which makes this hard for me). This is something I have consciously tried to work on which those of you who came to TCLA's crash course will know! I think this is where luck comes into play and it was just by chance that a presentation formed part of one of the assessments. I have, however, been able to talk about this as being an achievement and as being an example of my resilience in other interviews this cycle because i have worked on this which I think has actually been quite well received so it is always good to turn a negative into a positive where appropriate and where you have sought improvement.

In terms of other experiences, in one interview I fell down because I had been a bit too waffley in my competencies. This was so hard for me to try and change because I really hate feeling robotic and find that my consciousness of being robotic actually completely distracts my thoughts. So, whilst I was conscious of this in subsequent interviews, I wouldn't say I was necessarily concise. However, at these subsequent interviews, the length and style of my competency deliveries were not critiqued, so in a way, again, I think this could well be a 'luck' thing or just vary from firm to firm maybe. Basically, try to have a structure (STAR) and be conscious of waffling but I guess be true to your communication style too as I think this can help come into the whole 'fit' evaluation of this process too and I know I was truly 'me' in my interviews as a result. But please do STAR guys - that is absolutely key regardless!

Following another interview, it was recommended that I should have more of a structure in responding to SJT questions. I think it can be hard when they are vague, but try to think of a logical 'in the first instance I would do this...', 'following that I would do this'. I guess it just helps the interviewer to understand your thought process and can help you to organise your thoughts. I wish I had done this on paper and made more of a diagram with 'step one' and 'step two' so I would recommend something like this for these interviews/questions going forwards.

That's honestly pretty much a round-up of the feedback I have had but I really do believe luck and many other factors beyond your control can factor into these things.
Hi Alice! Would you mind sharing which steps you took to improve your presentation skills? I feel like I could improve this and would appreciate any tips and recommendations.
 
Hi Alice! Would you mind sharing which steps you took to improve your presentation skills? I feel like I could improve this and would appreciate any tips and recommendations.
Hi there :) To be honest, for me, I sought opportunities where I could speak publicly and I have been very lucky in the sense that through my work with TCLA and @Jaysen's support I have been able to speak publicly on a number of occasions now. I know, however, that this is a privilege and not something which is so easily accessible, not least during a pandemic. If I was at uni I would have gotten involved with debating as a means to boost my confidence in this area and practise this, are you at a university currently? I do think that practise makes perfect so I would really recommend trying to seek out some opportunities to speak publicly and present.

Other things I have done to help mindset has been to listen to other people speaking - some of the best orators are slow and take their time and really allow for pauses. I recognised in myself when I went to speak, I was so rehearsed and wanted to get the words out that I would speak too fast which led me to stumble and then panic. With that said, it can really help to try and analyse what you find quite scary about presenting/what might be holding you back. Now, I never script what I want to say but merely have bullet points of what I need to cover to allow me to be more conversational in my speech.

On the subject of mindset, I try to use breathing techniques to stay calm when I know I have a presentation or talk upcoming and I just think to myself that no one in the audience wants to see me fail or faulter. I think the panic can come from fear of messing up and being judged but when you try to really dispel that from your mind it definitely feels less daunting.
 
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