Ask Alice G (Future Trainee at Freshfields) Anything!

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Hi Alice,

I've just gotten a place on the Freshfields Graduate Workshop and I'm over the moon! I saw in one of the previous threads that you previously attended the workshop, I wanted to ask if you have any tips on getting the most out of the day? Sorry if this is a generic question!

Thanks in advance!
 
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Hi Alice,

I've just gotten a place on the Freshfields Graduate Workshop and I'm over the moon! I saw in one of the previous threads that you previously attended the workshop, I wanted to ask if you have any tips on getting the most out of the day? Sorry if this is a generic question!

Thanks in advance!
^ same position! Would love to hear :)

Hello to you both and well done!!

Honestly my best advice is to just enjoy yourself and soak up as much as you can. This is a great opportunity to ask questions so if there’s anything you want to know about the firm this is your chance! In advance, think about what you are looking for in a firm- is it strong mentorship? Is it certain D&I initiatives close to your heart?

I’m not just saying this but the FF workshop was my absolute favourite open day- they work so hard to provide sessions which are really useful. We did an article analysis workshop last year and did stuff on M&A with senior associates and trainees and it was just the most incredible learning experience.

also, if there’s chance, do try to socialise with other attendees. I met some really great people at the workshop I’m still in touch with and one of them
Is a fellow future trainee!

I’m excited for you both! Well done again and you’ve shown you can write an excellent personal statement too. Apply the techniques and styles you have already used for the longer PS and hopefully you’ll be able to assess for the TC!!

Please let me know how you both get on :)
 

RB

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Hello to you both and well done!!

Honestly my best advice is to just enjoy yourself and soak up as much as you can. This is a great opportunity to ask questions so if there’s anything you want to know about the firm this is your chance! In advance, think about what you are looking for in a firm- is it strong mentorship? Is it certain D&I initiatives close to your heart?

I’m not just saying this but the FF workshop was my absolute favourite open day- they work so hard to provide sessions which are really useful. We did an article analysis workshop last year and did stuff on M&A with senior associates and trainees and it was just the most incredible learning experience.

also, if there’s chance, do try to socialise with other attendees. I met some really great people at the workshop I’m still in touch with and one of them
Is a fellow future trainee!

I’m excited for you both! Well done again and you’ve shown you can write an excellent personal statement too. Apply the techniques and styles you have already used for the longer PS and hopefully you’ll be able to assess for the TC!!

Please let me know how you both get on :)

Thanks Alice, I really appreciate it!!
 
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RB

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Hi both!

How did you find it?? I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did :)

Hi Alice! Thanks for checking up on us :) It was really good - one of the best open days I've attended! Although I would have preferred it to be in person, it was definitely very informative and they really made an effort to make the event interactive. I've just sent in my TC application so crossed fingers that everything goes well!!!
 

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Hi Alice! Thanks for checking up on us :) It was really good - one of the best open days I've attended! Although I would have preferred it to be in person, it was definitely very informative and they really made an effort to make the event interactive. I've just sent in my TC application so crossed fingers that everything goes well!!!
Ahh amazing!! I’m so so glad to hear! I absolutely empathise with you there, it’s never quite the same virtually but I’m glad it was informative and really hope it helped you with your app and helped to make you feel more confident with it!!

Wishing you the best with the application, I have my fingers crossed for you and please keep me posted! :)
 

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Hi Alice!

Thank you so much for your answers on this forum, they've been so helpful!

I attended a couple of Freshfields Focus Events earlier this year during which the graduate recruitment team really emphasised that we should "show not tell" on our applications. I was wondering if you had any advice on how to best to do that? I am currently working on my personal statement and I often feel the need to say: "I have strong x skills which I have developed through x experience during which I did x." I'm worried that it's too much 'telling" especially because I'm struggling with the word count right now but I'm also not sure how else to demonstrate relevant skills.
 
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Hi Alice!

Thank you so much for your answers on this forum, they've been so helpful!

I attended a couple of Freshfields Focus Events earlier this year during which the graduate recruitment team really emphasised that we should "show not tell" on our applications. I was wondering if you had any advice on how to best to do that? I am currently working on my personal statement and I often feel the need to say: "I have strong x skills which I have developed through x experience during which I did x." I'm worried that it's too much 'telling" especially because I'm struggling with the word count right now but I'm also not sure how else to demonstrate relevant skills.
Hi Anna, thank you so much!

This is quite tricky and you are right to ask for clarity! I think your example above is a little bit too 'tell' - I think really what they mean, when you are doing your 'why you' response sections is try to pick out just a couple of key skills or attributes and evidence them with experience but you don't need to tell them every skill that is borne out of an experience. So, for example, i picked out one key thing i wanted to discuss and gave examples of when I had worked in a situation which enhanced that particular attribute but I did not list every other attribute inherent to that experience. I did find this 'show not tell' approach quite tricky but I think the heart of it is that firms don't want to read really formulaic answers and saying I have XYZ skills from XYZ can sometimes lend to relatively disengaging writing. Try to pick a couple of key skills you want to showcase and try to compel that through experience but without being as explicit as the example you give above.
 
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Hey Alice!

Me again... lol!

Hope you're doing well! And your loved ones are happy, safe and healthy!

I saw that you responded to @cgs97's thread on checking out of the TC process. I'm feeling the same too.

My biggest concern is that I'm also a graduate (Law 2018). I'm 24 and I've also been working full time since I graduated non-stop. I know that I can bring a wealth of skills and developments to a Firm but I'm concerned that maybe I'm getting too old for the process and candidates much younger academically are more desirable?

I read that you didn't consider law until 18 months after graduation and so, I was hoping whether you'd be able to give me your thoughts and insights about being "less desirable" in the process? It'd be good to hear your own story in that regard too.

Thanks! <3
 

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Hey Alice!

Me again... lol!

Hope you're doing well! And your loved ones are happy, safe and healthy!

I saw that you responded to @cgs97's thread on checking out of the TC process. I'm feeling the same too.

My biggest concern is that I'm also a graduate (Law 2018). I'm 24 and I've also been working full time since I graduated non-stop. I know that I can bring a wealth of skills and developments to a Firm but I'm concerned that maybe I'm getting too old for the process and candidates much younger academically are more desirable?

I read that you didn't consider law until 18 months after graduation and so, I was hoping whether you'd be able to give me your thoughts and insights about being "less desirable" in the process? It'd be good to hear your own story in that regard too.

Thanks! <3

Hi,

Sorry I'm not Alice but thought I'd jump in on this!

It might be worth checking out the threads below for some inspiration. There are a lot of success stories of people who have applied later in life and been successful. For example, I did my vac scheme at the age of 25 and secured a TC from it, meaning I won't qualify until just before turning 30!

The threads below will provide you with more info/experiences but the consistent theme seems to be that career changers or candidates who have taken a few years out are still welcomed by many firms.

https://www.thecorporatelawacademy.com/forum/threads/career-changer-straight-to-tc.1966/
https://www.thecorporatelawacademy.com/forum/threads/career-change-success-stories.2684/
 
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Hey Alice!

Me again... lol!

Hope you're doing well! And your loved ones are happy, safe and healthy!

I saw that you responded to @cgs97's thread on checking out of the TC process. I'm feeling the same too.

My biggest concern is that I'm also a graduate (Law 2018). I'm 24 and I've also been working full time since I graduated non-stop. I know that I can bring a wealth of skills and developments to a Firm but I'm concerned that maybe I'm getting too old for the process and candidates much younger academically are more desirable?

I read that you didn't consider law until 18 months after graduation and so, I was hoping whether you'd be able to give me your thoughts and insights about being "less desirable" in the process? It'd be good to hear your own story in that regard too.

Thanks! <3

Freshfields have taken trainees on who are/were in their 40s. I recruited several who were in their 30s. Age will really not be an issue.
 

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Hey Alice!

Me again... lol!

Hope you're doing well! And your loved ones are happy, safe and healthy!

I saw that you responded to @cgs97's thread on checking out of the TC process. I'm feeling the same too.

My biggest concern is that I'm also a graduate (Law 2018). I'm 24 and I've also been working full time since I graduated non-stop. I know that I can bring a wealth of skills and developments to a Firm but I'm concerned that maybe I'm getting too old for the process and candidates much younger academically are more desirable?

I read that you didn't consider law until 18 months after graduation and so, I was hoping whether you'd be able to give me your thoughts and insights about being "less desirable" in the process? It'd be good to hear your own story in that regard too.

Thanks! <3
Hey! No worries at all - I secured my TC at 24 and I have met a lot of career changers, a number of them who I am very lucky to call friends and I am very much of the belief having a bit more 'life experience' isn't a bad thing at all! I think you just need to back yourself and try not to let this worry you - if I am totally honest, and echoing what @Jessica Booker has said, I really doubt firms even consider age as they are just interested in seeing what you have done and what makes you unique! Have confidence and you are still very young still don't forget! :)
 
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Hi Alice,

Hope you are doing well.

I am currently preparing my Freshfields application, and was wondering whether you have any particular tips for the work experience section, as I cannot find any word limit/requirements. Would you once again 'show, not tell' the skills you gained from a certain internship/part-time work, or would you treat it more as a general description of what the role entailed? Thank you!

Thank you!
 

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Hi @Alice G, Hi @Jessica Booker

I have a somewhat similar question to @kn2812 above re the work experience section for my Freshfields application. In the past, I used to mention the type of skills I have learned and would then go on to explain what I exactly did in the role that helped me develop the mentioned skill. As Freshfields takes the 'show not tell' approach, would you recommend not mentioning the skills I learned but solely focusing on what I exactly did? I know the application deadline is next week, so any help is much appreciated! :) Happy new year btw!!
 

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Hi @Alice G, Hi @Jessica Booker

I have a somewhat similar question to @kn2812 above re the work experience section for my Freshfields application. In the past, I used to mention the type of skills I have learned and would then go on to explain what I exactly did in the role that helped me develop the mentioned skill. As Freshfields takes the 'show not tell' approach, would you recommend not mentioning the skills I learned but solely focusing on what I exactly did? I know the application deadline is next week, so any help is much appreciated! :) Happy new year btw!!

Yeah - Freshfields used to take the approach that they were switched on in most cases to be able to infer the skills, they were far more interested in what you did/what you got out of it.
 
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Hi @Alice G, Hi @Jessica Booker

I have a somewhat similar question to @kn2812 above re the work experience section for my Freshfields application. In the past, I used to mention the type of skills I have learned and would then go on to explain what I exactly did in the role that helped me develop the mentioned skill. As Freshfields takes the 'show not tell' approach, would you recommend not mentioning the skills I learned but solely focusing on what I exactly did? I know the application deadline is next week, so any help is much appreciated! :) Happy new year btw!!
Hi Alice,

Hope you are doing well.

I am currently preparing my Freshfields application, and was wondering whether you have any particular tips for the work experience section, as I cannot find any word limit/requirements. Would you once again 'show, not tell' the skills you gained from a certain internship/part-time work, or would you treat it more as a general description of what the role entailed? Thank you!

Thank you!
Hello both! @Jessica Booker is right - treat it the same as every firm - tease out what you did, what you learned and the key skills :)
 
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Hi there,

So asides from article interviews I only ever prepared for M&A case studies. @Jessica Booker has duly noted that not all case studies are M&A case studies so please do remember that this advice is catered to M&A.

1. Start reading commercial news for ten minutes a day and be consistent. Strong candidates will support their points in case study interviews with real-life examples. so, if you recognise a competition concern in a case study you might want to reference something like the failed Sainsburys/Asda merger to substantiate and strengthen a point.

2. Look at the departments in law firms and understand what each of them does. This will allow you to go into the case study with a framework through which to think. If you remember about IP departments in law firms then your mind will trigger you to think about branding concerns or patents in a case study even if it is not explicit or obvious - this will show the interviewer you can think more broadly and beyond the scope of what is written if required. If you remember about disputes, then you might be better attuned if you read something which might subtly hint at a litigious claim.

3. Try to read thought leadership pieces and listen to podcasts about the trends and themes in certain departments: for competition you might want to explore the increasingly interventionist nature of competition authorities and think about the impact this can have - by mentioning these topical issues you can make yourself stand out. For M&A, you might want to look at shareholder activism and the impact of this too. There are many other issues and trends you can research which might give you helpful information which can be leveraged at the interview.

4. Look at share vs asset purchases.

5. Look at debt vs equity financing and understand the pros and cons of each and when they might be most appropriate

6. Look up the following and know what they are:

- warranties, indemnities and representations
- restrictive covenants i.e. non-compete and non-solicit clauses
- Look up what a non-disclosure agreement is and what heads of terms are.
- Look up a balance sheet and just try to become more comfortable with what this is and what it shows.

7. Practise writing out diagrams which explain an M&A deal - try to have an understanding of the different parties, who they are, their motives and what type of transaction it is (i.e. share or asset) and how the transaction is being funded.

8. On the above, always consider what the motives are of each party - this is really important to show your understanding

9. keep your client's interests in mind - you will no doubt need to make a decision on this proposed deal - whether to advise for or against. Always remember you are acting in the interests of your client so try to balance the opportunity with risk and offer solutions. So many candidates can issue spot, but really strong candidates are those who can recognise issues and risks and advise the client as to how these might be mitigated.

10. Look up SWOT and PESTLE as these can offer you some more frameworks in which to structure your analysis and opinion whether the case study is written or presented. Always leave 7-10 mins to consider your structure and to make sure you have an opinion as this is crucial.

11. Don't forget to look at the price and any financials - they won't be too tricky but just try your best to weigh up whether you think the price seems reasonable/fair or not and whether there are any financial imbalances/issues you can spot.


I really hope this helps and sorry these points aren't especially well or logically structured but I just tried to write everything I can remember preparing for case studies.

As a note, I would also caution against listening to the experiences of others too much when it comes to case studies. The key to being a standout candidate in these interviews is being able to spot the original points and nuances which others might miss or which might be easily overlooked. Going in with prior knowledge can potentially blind-side you to these issues :)

Hi @Alice G @Jessica Booker - Could you please advise?

1) Is this case study exercise the article review intereview? Because the present application process on FF's website only mentions the latter. Thank you

2) In relation to preparing for an answer to 'what commercial story has interested you'? I understand we're meant to only mention 1, but in general, how many commercial stories should we prepare and @Alice G did you beyond 3?

Thank you for your time!
 

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Hi @Alice G @Jessica Booker - Could you please advise?

1) Is this case study exercise the article review intereview? Because the present application process on FF's website only mentions the latter. Thank you

2) In relation to preparing for an answer to 'what commercial story has interested you'? I understand we're meant to only mention 1, but in general, how many commercial stories should we prepare and @Alice G did you beyond 3?

Thank you for your time!
I’m pretty sure Alice was just giving general advice on M&A case studies, not for FBD in particular.

I personally would only prepare 1 or 2 stories. There is a risk of over preparation if you are doing too many - just pick one or two you are truly interested in. But that’s just my opinion on matters.
 
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