TCLA Direct Training Contract Applications Discussion Thread 2024-5

Amma Usman

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I'm curious but has anyone heard of people that failed ACs because of being bad players in group exercises? How common are they? I feel they are quite pointless as I feel grad rec fails no one because of them, I'd be really curious to hear @Amma Usman and anyone else who is able to contribute :)

In my opinion, the main skill law firms, and even any organisation, are trying to test by placing group exercises is the extent to which you are a team player. How well you work in a team. From my perspective on this, it can be a real dealbreaker if you are set a task and are unable to work with your team and solve it together. You will find that it’s even sometimes better working in a team, as there’s more collective knowledge to utilise, ultimately helping your contribution be better. Taking turns to speak helps. If there’s also someone in your team that appears a bit shy or less engaged, offer to make them feel at home and involved by asking for their own thoughts on a matter. This not only improves your candidacy, but also makes them feel valued as a team member, which anyone would love to feel.

My overarching reason for saying all these is looking at the work law firms, and in fact virtually any successful profession, produces. All hinging on the collaborative effort of many people. Teamwork is what ensures the tough days are gone through quicker and more efficiently.

Feel free to let us know if you’ve got any more questions at all. This was a really good one.
 
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Tintin06

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I'm curious but has anyone heard of people that failed ACs because of being bad players in group exercises? How common are they? I feel they are quite pointless as I feel grad rec fails no one because of them, I'd be really curious to hear @Amma Usman and anyone else who is able to contribute :)
Yes, I've seen that happen before. Sometimes better to say less, truthfully. Shyness is forgive-able, domineering behaviour isn't. Negotiation exercises aren't a wrestling march. Ideally be easy to work with. Firms constantly work with each other.
 

James Wakefield

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I'm curious but has anyone heard of people that failed ACs because of being bad players in group exercises? How common are they? I feel they are quite pointless as I feel grad rec fails no one because of them, I'd be really curious to hear @Amma Usman and anyone else who is able to contribute :)
I feel like a lot of people fall down on these and they’re actually a common reason for people not getting offers.
 

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I'm curious but has anyone heard of people that failed ACs because of being bad players in group exercises? How common are they? I feel they are quite pointless as I feel grad rec fails no one because of them, I'd be really curious to hear @Amma Usman and anyone else who is able to contribute :)
100%.

For example an online group exercise that I did was about the green belt. The instructions were to NOT do background research

As it happened people were mistaken in their understanding of green belt, which is specifically about defined 'belts' around about half-a-dozen named cities , and NOT 'the countryside' in general. So there were people basically talking rubbish about the green belt, but the problem was that there were specific instructions to perform the task in two halfs with specific cut-off times, and if you, as I, were blathering on worrying about the facts instead of trying to bring the task to a conclusion, you'd fail and get rejected.

This particular group exercise was directly run by the firm, and there was no one-to-one interview, so absolutely they were rejecting people based on poor group skills
 
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Sunshinepink

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    It’s so lovely that you’re practicing from now. There’s a course on TCLA which goes through the WG that should help.

    I’ve linked below:


    In terms of the scores, passing thresholds differ between cycles, so it’s unlikely to say anything definitive on this.
    Thank you so much!
     

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