TCLA Direct Training Contract Applications Discussion Thread 2024-5

Amma Usman

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Just did the GLD VI. Does anyone know if there’s a baseline pass mark for each question or whether it’s an overall grade for all questions? I messed up one question big time but the others went quite well I thought 😟

I presume different companies may have different ways of grading these, perhaps through a metric or a numerical scale, though this may not be disclosed to applicants. In my personal opinion though, I can imagine how difficult it will be to precisely mark something like a recorded written statement by an individual, in which case I presume everything will just be looked at holistically.
 

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Has anyone got any good tips or know of any techniques to get better at Cappfinnity assessments, I always do terrible and feel like the reflections I get on my strengths/weaknesses aren't accurate at all. I have another SJT coming up and would appreciate any advice or websites to look at.

Hiya - this attached post should help.

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Just to thank you all on this forum (especially @Ram Sabaratnam and @Amma Usman and previously Jessica Booker) for the help and the chat over the past year or so and to let you know that following my vac scheme I have received a training contract offer at the London office of a US law firm and will therefore start my PGDL/SQE this September!

Hang on in there! My advice is to keep plugging away. I think the advice of 10 or so targeted applications no longer stands good in today's ultra competitive market unless you are lucky. Do the research but apply for as many as you can. And definitely refine your answers to match the values they admire and skills they seek in their employees. This strategy worked for me. In the true random nature of the competitive nature of these applications I got this offer the same day as being rejected first round for a regional firm!!

Please don't message to ask which firm. The intake is small enough that it would be quite outing and I do want to retain the anonymity this forum brings.

I may hang around a while longer to throw in my gems of wisdom for what they may be worth!!
 
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Yep! I have seen many people with no immediate ties to the UK succeed in applications. Law firms value geographical diversity. Just be prepared to be asked the question of why law in the UK at an international firm, and not your home country. This question is often asked as law firms want to filter out candidates that are applying just on vibes but instead actually want to build a long-term career at these firms/ the country (considering the two-year TC is a development programme and an investment of a law firm into your professional development).
Thank you, Amma!
 
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Before accepting any offer, try to find out whether the role is paid hourly or comes with overtime, as this can make a significant difference to your total pay. Some firms offer fixed salaries with no overtime, even if you're expected to work extra hours. Others do pay overtime, which can substantially boost your earnings, sometimes by 20 to 30 percent above your base salary, occasionally even surpassing trainee solicitor pay.

Entry-level salaries can vary widely. With little or no experience, base pay can reach up to £32,000 to £34,000. In firms where overtime is paid, some paralegals earn over £40,000. Generally, I do know of a couple of US firms that pay around 50k as well.

Law firms generally pay more than other sectors, so there’s a good chance they’ll offer you a competitive salary, especially if they’re investing in your training and development via the paralegal role. Even if you listed a lower expected salary on your application, firms often offer more if they think you're worth it, since underpaying risks early leave.

If the offer doesn’t meet your expectations, consider asking whether overtime is paid, if you’ll be eligible for a bonus, typically after six months, whether there’s a salary review cycle, and what the benefits package includes. Some firms offer flexible perks that, if unused, can be paid out as extra taxable income.

Get all the details before making your decision, as you might be surprised by the full package.
So helpful, thank you!
 
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    I presume different companies may have different ways of grading these, perhaps through a metric or a numerical scale, though this may not be disclosed to applicants. In my personal opinion though, I can imagine how difficult it will be to precisely mark something like a recorded written statement by an individual, in which case I presume everything will just be looked at holistically.

    Just to add to Amma's response - I recently made it in an another civil service interview. They were assessing candidates on three behaviours, and for each behaviour, they put a score for my responses. All my scores are 4 or above. But I would think they add the scores up rather than setting a pass mark for each behaviour - to me it makes more sense!
    1. Not demonstrated
    2. Minimal demonstration
    3. Moderate demonstration
    4. Acceptable demonstration
    5. Good demonstration
    6. Strong demonstration
    7. Outstanding demonstration

    Also I just did my GLP interview! How did you (ssszzg & Aspiringsolicitor01) feel about the Motivation question, and Q2 which is not directly asking you on the behvaiours? Feel like I didn't manage my time too well on the Motivation Q and Q2 I didn't target my responses to the behvaiours - it's so hard to think my responses in that way immediately! Feel like I did well in the last 2 though, this is what I expected.
     
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    Just to add to Amma's response - I recently made it in an another civil service interview. They were assessing candidates on three behaviours, and for each behaviour, they put a score for my responses. All my scores are 4 or above. But I would think they add the scores up rather than setting a pass mark for each behaviour - to me it makes more sense!
    1. Not demonstrated
    2. Minimal demonstration
    3. Moderate demonstration
    4. Acceptable demonstration
    5. Good demonstration
    6. Strong demonstration
    7. Outstanding demonstration

    Also I just did my GLP interview! How did you (ssszzg & Aspiringsolicitor01) feel about the Motivation question, and Q2 which is not directly asking you on the behvaiours? Feel like I didn't manage my time too well on the Motivation Q and Q2 I didn't target my responses to the behvaiours - it's so hard to think my responses in that way immediately! Feel like I did well in the last 2 though, this is what I expected.
    yeah I found q2 the most difficult and it was the one I messed up because I didn’t/couldn’t prepare for it. I rambled on about similar/same pointe and got cut off at the end 🫤

    I felt like the other questions went well, and the 1st motivation question I had effectively pre prepared. Still, I had to ignore the tips/hints on structure as they would potentially break up my STAR structure and rhythm. I assume they’re only hints and our mark won’t be affected if our own structure gets across the points well enough?
     

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    Morgan Lewis DTC telephone interview! Any tips welcome 🙏🏻
    In my experience, preparing for it fairly similarly to a VI helps - tips here: https://www.thecorporatelawacademy....de-for-competency-interview-preparation.9380/

    Generally goes over and builds on your application, get an insight to you as a person etc.

    I generally prepare for the common VI questions (which that link shows). Obviously its a telephone interview so you may as well have some bullet points jotted down that you can quickly skim read for prompts if you get stuck

    Someone can probably give better advice than that but might be useful haha
     

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    In my experience, preparing for it fairly similarly to a VI helps - tips here: https://www.thecorporatelawacademy....de-for-competency-interview-preparation.9380/

    Generally goes over and builds on your application, get an insight to you as a person etc.

    I generally prepare for the common VI questions (which that link shows). Obviously its a telephone interview so you may as well have some bullet points jotted down that you can quickly skim read for prompts if you get stuck

    Someone can probably give better advice than that but might be useful haha
    Thank you so much 🙏🏻😊

    I’m unsure if this is the one you meant but someone shared this on the forum the other day https://www.how2become.com/critical-thinking-tests/
     

    EG3

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    I saw someone post a really useful guide to WG tests but I can't find it now

    If anyone knows what I'm on about and could attach the reply that'd be fab - or any other guidance :)
    Found this in another forum, which is basically what I was after.

    Attached below if anyone else is interested
     

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    InterestInPublicLaw

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    yeah I found q2 the most difficult and it was the one I messed up because I didn’t/couldn’t prepare for it. I rambled on about similar/same pointe and got cut off at the end 🫤

    I felt like the other questions went well, and the 1st motivation question I had effectively pre prepared. Still, I had to ignore the tips/hints on structure as they would potentially break up my STAR structure and rhythm. I assume they’re only hints and our mark won’t be affected if our own structure gets across the points well enough?
    Not sure about this, because criteria for Motivation less clearly explained in the Personal Specification, I tried to include the tips coz I think they would want us to include. But didn't complete my answers quite well.
     
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    Hi everyone, I’m drafting my response to this Devonshires Direct TC question and would really appreciate some insights:

    “Which areas of law interest you the most and why? Which areas do you find the least appealing and why? Please provide two examples for each question.”

    I don’t really struggle to talk about the areas I am interested in, but I’m less sure how to handle the “least appealing” part without sounding negative. In particular:

    • What are employers looking for when they ask “least appealing”? Self‑awareness, Strengths, or are they truly looking at what your interests lie?
    • How can I turn a “dislike” into a positive story that showcases my strengths, competencies and openness to varied work?
    • What would you think about mentioning practice areas that Devonshires practise in?
    For example, I’m considering:

    Corporate law

    • I find the repetitive review of lengthy financial documents, reading technical financial & corporate information every day, and unpredictable long‑hour deadlines less engaging.
    • This view was formed after my paralegal experience in investment funds, and hearing my friends’ high stress at work in Corporate. Although I’m comfortable with complex documentation, I found the nature of the work quite dry and lacking a lot of opportunities to communicate with a range of clients—it often felt limited to email and phone contact.
    • I’m mindful that Devonshires are Band 1 for social housing finance—one of their corporate sub-areas, so I’m not sure if I should mention Corporate.
    • I’ve thought about whether to mention my funds experience directly, since Devonshires don’t practise in that area—though they do have a financial regulation team. Think it would be better?
    Residential conveyancing
    • Having completed SQE1, I found it less appealing because it feels highly standardised and repetitive. I prefer roles with broader impact and creative problem‑solving opportunities. I worry it wouldn’t give me the level of creative problem‑solving or broad strategic impact I’ve enjoyed in other areas.
    • Devonshires do residential conveyancing but it’s not ranked.

    Any tips appreciated? Also worried that my answers on less appealing areas could sound subjective, and not well-thought out!
     

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