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Just did Ashurst's digital assessment (Emotify), which asks you to identify emotions based on pictures of people's emotional reactions. I scored fine on the test but does anyone else think that these tests have discriminatory implications? First and foremost for those who have a disability eg autism, Asperger's etc (and for those who might have a milder/undiagnosed version of such disabilities which they don't have medical proof of or aren't able to report to Ashurst directly about it.)

Secondly because emotional recognition is very much tied with our cultures, perhaps putting some cultural/ethnic groups at a disadvantage. I'm particularly concerned about the part of the test where they act you to identify what someone's reaction would be in a particular day to day situation - people of different ethical, cultural and community backgrounds simply might react differently, placing people from these groups in a disadvantage when asked to determine how an 'average' or 'standard' (this would require further investigation... but presumably white/middle class/etc) person would react??
 
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orange32 said:
Just did Ashurst's digital assessment (Emotify), which asks you to identify emotions based on pictures of people's emotional reactions. I scored fine on the test but does anyone else think that these tests have discriminatory implications? First and foremost for those who have a disability eg autism, Asperger's etc (and for those who might have a milder/undiagnosed version of such disabilities which they don't have medical proof of or aren't able to report to Ashurst directly about it.)

Secondly because emotional recognition is very much tied with our cultures, perhaps putting some cultural/ethnic groups at a disadvantage. I'm particularly concerned about the part of the test where they act you to identify what someone's reaction would be in a particular day to day situation - people of different ethical, cultural and community backgrounds simply might react differently, placing people from these groups in a disadvantage when asked to determine how an 'average' or 'standard' (this would require further investigation... but presumably white/middle class/etc) person would react??
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Anyone with autism or Aspergers should be asking for a reasonable adjustment to the recruitment process. As someone who is more than likely on a spectrum for a form of autism, I understand that this doesn’t help anyone who has it mildly enough to not need reasonable adjustments. However, if that is the case then you are unlikely to be so negatively impacted by the test that it would cause an issue in the first place. Slightly different if you are undiagnosed, but to be honest that is a problem with any assessment you could have in a recruitment process, with a range of conditions and disabilities.

Such assessments are validated to check for cultural biases/adverse impact and will have been adapted to ensure there isn’t any. Questions/scenarios will have been scrapped/adapted if it is clear that there is any form of adverse impact (gender will also be an issue as well as culture/ethnicity). They will have also checked whether there is adverse impact on things like age too.
 
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orange32 said:
Just did Ashurst's digital assessment (Emotify), which asks you to identify emotions based on pictures of people's emotional reactions. I scored fine on the test but does anyone else think that these tests have discriminatory implications? First and foremost for those who have a disability eg autism, Asperger's etc (and for those who might have a milder/undiagnosed version of such disabilities which they don't have medical proof of or aren't able to report to Ashurst directly about it.)

Secondly because emotional recognition is very much tied with our cultures, perhaps putting some cultural/ethnic groups at a disadvantage. I'm particularly concerned about the part of the test where they act you to identify what someone's reaction would be in a particular day to day situation - people of different ethical, cultural and community backgrounds simply might react differently, placing people from these groups in a disadvantage when asked to determine how an 'average' or 'standard' (this would require further investigation... but presumably white/middle class/etc) person would react??
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Although it was fun to do, it was a weird test for a recruitment process. I don’t get how being good at games makes you a good candidate tbh!
 
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orange32 said:
Just did Ashurst's digital assessment (Emotify), which asks you to identify emotions based on pictures of people's emotional reactions. I scored fine on the test but does anyone else think that these tests have discriminatory implications? First and foremost for those who have a disability eg autism, Asperger's etc (and for those who might have a milder/undiagnosed version of such disabilities which they don't have medical proof of or aren't able to report to Ashurst directly about it.)

Secondly because emotional recognition is very much tied with our cultures, perhaps putting some cultural/ethnic groups at a disadvantage. I'm particularly concerned about the part of the test where they act you to identify what someone's reaction would be in a particular day to day situation - people of different ethical, cultural and community backgrounds simply might react differently, placing people from these groups in a disadvantage when asked to determine how an 'average' or 'standard' (this would require further investigation... but presumably white/middle class/etc) person would react??
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In terms of the first point, if you tell Ashurst that you have a neurodiverse condition they are more lenient towards your score and place more emphasis on the application. Same for the games section if you have a physical disability.
 
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So I got a telephone interview with Norton Rose(i am chuffed at passing that dreadful WG test for once!)

Only dates available were tomorrow, so quite pressurising.

If anyone has had any experience with NRF telephone interviews, and the type of questions they ask(is it competency/motivational/situational for e.g?) I'd really appreciate some insight :)
 
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dosblancos7 said:
So I got a telephone interview with Norton Rose(i am chuffed at passing that dreadful WG test for once!)

Only dates available were tomorrow, so quite pressurising.

If anyone has had any experience with NRF telephone interviews, and the type of questions they ask(is it competency/motivational/situational for e.g?) I'd really appreciate some insight :)
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congrats! Do you mind saying when you did the test?
 
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