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TCLA Direct Training Contract Applications Discussion Thread 2025-26
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Quick question - if you've been offered a TC by a firm but are still awaiting a response from another (competitor?) firm, would you email the latter to inquire when they're planning to get back to you? I'm thinking of notifying the latter that I've been offered a TC but am still interested in them (if they would have me!)
(copying in @Andrei Radu @Abbie Whitlock & I welcome advice from anyone else too
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(copying in @Andrei Radu @Abbie Whitlock & I welcome advice from anyone else too
)congratulations !!!!!!!!!!!!Quick question - if you've been offered a TC by a firm but are still awaiting a response from another (competitor?) firm, would you email the latter to inquire when they're planning to get back to you? I'm thinking of notifying the latter that I've been offered a TC but am still interested in them (if they would have me!)
(copying in @Andrei Radu @Abbie Whitlock & I welcome advice from anyone else too
Hi!Quick question - if you've been offered a TC by a firm but are still awaiting a response from another (competitor?) firm, would you email the latter to inquire when they're planning to get back to you? I'm thinking of notifying the latter that I've been offered a TC but am still interested in them (if they would have me!)
(copying in @Andrei Radu @Abbie Whitlock & I welcome advice from anyone else too
First of all, congratulations on your TC offer!! 🥳 I was in a similar situation last cycle, so thought I'd share how I approached it.
I would politely email the graduate recruitment team of the firm that you are still waiting to hear from, and just explain that you have received a TC offer but still remain interested in them and wondered if they had any update on when you can expect to hear back - this is completely normal, and can sometimes speed up decisions (though not always). I did the same after receiving my TC offer, and the other firm were able to get back to me a day or so later. Even if they aren't able to get back to you immediately, they may be able to provide you with a rough timeframe in which you can expect to hear back, which is always useful!
Sometimes they might ask who the TC offer is with (as I was asked this), but this is usually just so they can see who they are competing with in relation to talent. If you have a deadline for accepting the TC offer, I would just mention this in the email as it might be useful for the firm you are waiting to hear from to be aware of this.
I hope that assists, and best of luck with your decision!
Well done on A&OS TC🤗Quick question - if you've been offered a TC by a firm but are still awaiting a response from another (competitor?) firm, would you email the latter to inquire when they're planning to get back to you? I'm thinking of notifying the latter that I've been offered a TC but am still interested in them (if they would have me!)
(copying in @Andrei Radu @Abbie Whitlock & I welcome advice from anyone else too
I can’t say for sure, but I’d just take no news as good news for now!
thank you so much, Abbie!! Your message definitely helps a lot - mentioning the timeframe also sounds like a very good idea! I have a bit of a silly follow-up question: letting them know wouldn’t make me more likely to be rejected, right?
It is probably an illogical worry, but I just wanted to check 😅
No worries at all, glad to hear it helped!
Not a silly follow-up at all, and I can totally understand why you're worried (as I was the same and had to ask my mentor haha!). As long as your email is polite and doesn't seem like you are demanding an instant reply, it won't make you more likely to be rejected at all. As others have mentioned, if anything, it likely would have the opposite effect as you'll be viewed as a more competitive candidate
Do people apply to firms they’re lukewarm/ambivalent about? I started an application for a US firm but decided not to continue as I just couldn’t bring myself to show any passion for the firm. My list of firms I want to apply to is really, really small as a result. I wonder if I’m scuppering my chances by being so selective.
I'm doing that, but only when I have extra time to burn and if it doesn't affect the application timeframe of my preferred firms.
I'm trying not to, but I've very much got a list of "back-up" firms that I intend to apply to, time permitting. I also view it as giving my preferred firms 90% (in the way Andrei's talked about it before) and these "back-up" firms something closer to 75% (see what sticks approach). The depth of firm research I do for each type is definitely quite different though, you wouldn't likely find me digging up deal specifics or core repeat clients for the "back-up" firms
Absolutely. It's an extremely normal thing. In reality, most law firms of similar tiers will do quite similar things in quite similar ways. They are distinguished solely by culture and training. You need lawyers on both sides of an M&A deal after all. This changes slightly the smaller you get but is generally true for the massive full service firms. They will have their specialisms, but applying to train with the notion that you want to work only in the department they are known for may come across wrong on the application.
Honestly, a lot of people are drawn especially to the US mega firms for the wrong reasons. They demand a very particular type of person willing to work in a particular environment, and the firm themselves are not really willing to compromise what has worked for them to make sure you fit in. Not wanting to work in that environment (where the stereotype of US firms can be true) is totally understandable. The difficulty of landing a TC is trying to generate passion for the 27th law firm in a row you're applying to, it's unrealistic...
Being selective is not a problem theoretically if you have a CV and experience portfolio to back it up. Unfortunately, aspiration without experience is unlikely to be enough for most firms to want you when their candidate pool is so large enough with people that fit the bill. Of course, you never know if you don't try, but the recommendation is to try and find some motivators as to why you want to work there. It may not be your first choice firm, but if you like (or think you like) generally other things about the firm, talking about their practice areas can actually come second. The advantage that gives you is that if you have no long term legal experience, you don't actually really know what working in a law firm is like, and different departments are very different. Focusing on training quality, culture and broadly their existence in the market can be an alternative angle than practice areas. For instance, without having worked there, Ashurst's strengths are broadly projects, finance and disputes (all surrounding energy, infrastructure and construction). You may know very little about these practice areas, but a merger with Perkins Coie is an attractive opportunity to work in a market that had previously been difficult to access. Demand driven by US clients to have fully fleshed out cross border practices means that trainees post merger are going to have an advantage in a new market.
This is a bit of a run on, but I hope you can see that there is a way around focusing on the traditional application format.
Depends on where you stand in life, really! I'm trying my luck with around 40 firms this cycle. I have plenty of free time (before January, anyway) and want to understand my standing more globally.
That's exactly how I felt about Mishcon, Simmons, and OC. I am still thinking about GD though, but after OD rejection I felt like it's going to bottom of my list. I will only do it if I could finish other apps in a calibre quality before the deadline.
No, I withdrew from Weil from this reason! Just wasn’t excited about it. Some of the applications are such a process, you might as well go for what you like.
I’m on the fence about applying to Lewis Silkin. The firm clearly has a great culture, and my professional background is aligned with their strengths.
However, I don’t want to be pigeonholed, and I worry with a more boutique firm (although I recognise it’s still a commercial firm), that’s exactly what will happen. For example, if I get a TC there and don’t convert to Associate, or perhaps don’t want to convert to Associate there, my options might be slimmer than if I trained elsewhere.
I sometimes think I don’t do myself any favours by thinking about the worst case scenario all the time lol. But idk, feels like a reasonable concern?
However, I don’t want to be pigeonholed, and I worry with a more boutique firm (although I recognise it’s still a commercial firm), that’s exactly what will happen. For example, if I get a TC there and don’t convert to Associate, or perhaps don’t want to convert to Associate there, my options might be slimmer than if I trained elsewhere.
I sometimes think I don’t do myself any favours by thinking about the worst case scenario all the time lol. But idk, feels like a reasonable concern?
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