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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2025-26

struggled to understand what you were “alluding to” at so asked ChatGPT incase anyone else wanted to know !

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Lol, I guess that's a clear solid lesson in why you don't rely on AI.

I didn't want to spell it out because I appreciate everyone has different opinions on it. I was referring to the deals that law firms including ones on here made with the US administration just a few months ago. It's been well-reported that law firms have been doing pro-bono work for the Trump administration and while details are scant, the administration has a very different concept of pro-bono versus what the firms were thinking when they made deals with the administration.

That's why I was referring to commercial realities of law firms needing to exist while also bowing down to deep political pressure. And instead of the legal industry standing together, the co-chair of Sullivan & Cromwell was putting pressure on other law firms to sign a deal and law firms were trying to poach other partners from Paul, Weiss who were under attack (i.e. law firms' commercial realities for making deals). I was responding to someone asking how to pick themselves up from rejection by making a cynical remark about how firms don't really practice what they preach but that I'd also be the first one to accept an offer if it came to me (i.e. my commercial reality)


 
Likely OK, but you should try pushing for an 80pct+ score (heard some firms cutoff around 70--buffer to be safe). Practice helps a ton; pattern recognition etc. I started around the 50/60th pct and after a few weeks of consistent practice managed 90pct+'s. That said, a strong WG score alone isn't enough, got 99th pct for Links last year but wasn't progressed past stage 1...

Love the pfp/user by the way. LOL
Thanks for the input! Are there any platforms that you would recommend to practice them? I have to complete the test by tomorrow for the current firm so it's highly unlikely to be of any use, but I would like to be prepared for the next ones.

Thanks for the pfp/user appreciation. I just changed it an hour ago, as my my previous one was my real name and just wanted privacy XD.
 
struggled to understand what you were “alluding to” at so asked ChatGPT incase anyone else wanted to know !

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I assume this might be to do with Paul, Weiss striking a deal with the Trump administration to remove DEI initiatives and DEI sections from their websites and provide $100m worth of pro bono services, followed by a bunch of other US firms under pressure. Totally support Perkins Coie and WilmerHale for standing up to Trump but I also think it's quite pragmatic and commercial to succumb to the threat from the Trump administration. In a way, FF may have been the most pragmatic as they've somehow gotten away with both striking a deal with Trump and signing an amicus brief supporting Perkins Coie's challenge to the order from Trump to purge DEI from their firms.

There's a letter out there defending Paul, Weiss somewhere in the FT from Charlie Geffen (ex-Sr Partner Ashurst and ex-Head of PE Gibson Dunn London). He also talked about it in a Non-Billable podcast episode a few weeks ago where he mentions how the US is really the central axis for law firm revenue globally today and how these firms could've been completely crippled by the US govt in a very cutthroat market where any other firm would happily swoop in to take your clients. There's also a view out there that these firms are businesses that employ thousands of support staff as well as lawyers, and a crippled firm would mean their people lose job security due to lower revenues etc.

I've also accepted that if I want a career in commercial law in the current climate, I've just gotta bite down and live with it, but there's nothing stopping me from finding other ways to combat political pressure like this and promote DEI more subtly (I'm an ethnic minority so that's a start!) until more inclusive climates come along. There's also that cliché of "be the change you want to see", and I think that we as the future of the profession can have a hand in preventing this kind of pressure in future (but maybe that's just wishful thinking). Anyway, just my two cents, didn't mean to ramble about this in a thread for VS applications 🤣 but hopefully someone finds this info helpful 😅
 
Thanks for the input! Are there any platforms that you would recommend to practice them? I have to complete the test by tomorrow for the current firm so it's highly unlikely to be of any use, but I would like to be prepared for the next ones.

Thanks for the pfp/user appreciation. I just changed it an hour ago, as my my previous one was my real name and just wanted privacy XD.
JobTestPrep is great, would recommend. Includes 'explanations' on the logic behind the answer. (in air quotes because who the hell trusted a psychologist with logic?) Just grind and do an hour of WG prep a day for a month and you'll get used to the questions eventually.

Re pfp/name; was LITERALLY just rewatching Andrew Garfield's reactions to Emma Stone winning the Oscar... they're lalaland in real life my god

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(for any lalaland fans HAHAHA)
 
Bringing it back on topic, I guess this is why nobody should be relying on AI to complete their applications. Haha!
Generative AI, Yes! I agree!

I used Comet Browser once and automated the process of manually entering the module grades and work experiences in allhires. That did save me a huge chunk of time! And it was accurate (with all the entries!)

Task automation by augmenting the AI seems to be efficient, especially for such repetitive tasks.
 
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Hi everyone, I'd appreciate advice on allocating vacation scheme applications between Spring and Summer.

My Situation:
  • 3 firms offer both Spring & Summer: Firm A (Top Choice), Firm B (Strong Alternative), Firm C (Good, but lower tier).
  • 7 other firms are Summer-only, some of which I prefer over Firms B and C.


The Dilemma:
  • Strategy 1 (Focused): Apply only to Firm A for Spring. Apply to B, C, and others for Summer.
  • Pro: Maximises chance with my top choice.
  • Con: If I fail with A, I've "wasted" the Spring period.
  • Strategy 2 (Maximised): Apply to A, B, and C for Spring. Apply to the 7 others for Summer.
  • Pro: Maximises my chance of getting any Spring scheme and an early TC.
  • Con: Risks a "Forced Early Decision":
    • Best Case: Get Firm B's offer. I'd be happy to accept, even if it means withdrawing from A's process.
    • Worst Case: Get a TC from Firm C in May. I'm then forced to either accept a TC from a less-preferred firm or gamble it by declining to pursue my preferred Summer firms.


My Question:
Is the security of Strategy 2 worth the "Worst Case" risk of being locked into Firm C? Or is the focused approach of Strategy 1 ultimately safer for aiming higher?

(This is a theoretical scenario, not assuming I'll get these offers! Just planning strategically.)

Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
could anyone give me some advice on how to approach this question? i'm being asked 'focus on a situation where you had to think critically to solve a problem or make a decision. in your response, please cover
-how you identified the key issues
-what information you sought to complete your research
-how you involved others
-the outcome of your actions or decision
-how the experienced influenced the way you have approached similar situations since'

the word limit is quite long (500 words). feeling a bit intimidated because i'm only a recent graduate with limited work experience haha
 
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Hi everyone, I'd appreciate advice on allocating vacation scheme applications between Spring and Summer.

My Situation:
  • 3 firms offer both Spring & Summer: Firm A (Top Choice), Firm B (Strong Alternative), Firm C (Good, but lower tier).
  • 7 other firms are Summer-only, some of which I prefer over Firms B and C.


The Dilemma:
  • Strategy 1 (Focused): Apply only to Firm A for Spring. Apply to B, C, and others for Summer.
  • Pro: Maximises chance with my top choice.
  • Con: If I fail with A, I've "wasted" the Spring period.
  • Strategy 2 (Maximised): Apply to A, B, and C for Spring. Apply to the 7 others for Summer.
  • Pro: Maximises my chance of getting any Spring scheme and an early TC.
  • Con:Risks a "Forced Early Decision":
    • Best Case: Get Firm B's offer. I'd be happy to accept, even if it means withdrawing from A's process.
    • Worst Case: Get a TC from Firm C in May. I'm then forced to either accept a TC from a less-preferred firm or gamble it by declining to pursue my preferred Summer firms.


My Question:
Is the security of Strategy 2 worth the "Worst Case" risk of being locked into Firm C? Or is the focused approach of Strategy 1 ultimately safer for aiming higher?

(This is a theoretical scenario, not assuming I'll get these offers! Just planning strategically.)

Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
This is assuming you get the schemes lol. Just apply to all of them and be mindful. I would do A and B spring and the rest summer/
 
Hi everyone, I'd appreciate advice on allocating vacation scheme applications between Spring and Summer.

My Situation:
  • 3 firms offer both Spring & Summer: Firm A (Top Choice), Firm B (Strong Alternative), Firm C (Good, but lower tier).
  • 7 other firms are Summer-only, some of which I prefer over Firms B and C.


The Dilemma:
  • Strategy 1 (Focused): Apply only to Firm A for Spring. Apply to B, C, and others for Summer.
  • Pro: Maximises chance with my top choice.
  • Con: If I fail with A, I've "wasted" the Spring period.
  • Strategy 2 (Maximised): Apply to A, B, and C for Spring. Apply to the 7 others for Summer.
  • Pro: Maximises my chance of getting any Spring scheme and an early TC.
  • Con:Risks a "Forced Early Decision":
    • Best Case: Get Firm B's offer. I'd be happy to accept, even if it means withdrawing from A's process.
    • Worst Case: Get a TC from Firm C in May. I'm then forced to either accept a TC from a less-preferred firm or gamble it by declining to pursue my preferred Summer firms.


My Question:
Is the security of Strategy 2 worth the "Worst Case" risk of being locked into Firm C? Or is the focused approach of Strategy 1 ultimately safer for aiming higher?

(This is a theoretical scenario, not assuming I'll get these offers! Just planning strategically.)

Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I have different strategies. Usually, I don't mind about spring or summer as most firms do not specify exactly which scheme dates (especially between spring and summer) you could choose, it will eventually decided after you pass the assessment day or final recruitment stage before VS. The exceptions are Milbank, Weil, and few others.

Instead, I'd be more focused on:

The scheme deadlines: All firms provide different deadlines, whilst scheme dates might be still TBC like Kirkland & Ellis. I'd rather focus on this first among all. Based on my overall observations, UK firms (city, magic and silver circle firms) are closing their recruitment timeline earlier than international and the US counterparts.

Your calendars: Whether you are students or professionals, you might have clashed schedule with the scheme dates, so be aware to look at which dates you can't attend, particularly during exam week or critical day when you can't take a leave. For example, not all UG and PG university students both local or overseas can attend summer schemes on 8-19 June 2026 as it's still in your term dates, precisely among RG universities, except Bristol, QMU, Kings, UofM, and few.

Their open days: If the firms among your top choices, it's highly recommended to attend their ODs, before submitting your final VS applications. It's unlikely the Open Day will fall after the deadline (except for winter), so don't rush your submission. OD isn't essential to secure VS, but it gives you glimpse of views about the firms and industries, especially if you are non-law that helps you in the written to mid application stage.

The firm's recruitment stages and ACs: The only thing you could consider is the recruitment stage, if the firm's rolling and has shorter phase (without VI, SJT), then you should apply earlier than those non rolling with bunch of tests and later ACs.

The firm's rolling and rolling: This is the last thing to consider, I've seen many asked for the methods of evaluating candidates. As Abbie said, don't worry too much. I started to relieve after each submission and pause I made.

Why am I thinking like this?

• After PW PFO, I don't care if my app takes days even weeks to complete, as long as it's quite polished and confident, I should not be worried.

• If you are able to create a list of your top firm, now you should do what I suggested to check their dates and your calendar, so you would not missed any classes or potentially turn down offer because of clashed schedule or multiple VS at the same dates.
 
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Generative AI, Yes! I agree!

I used Comet Browser once and automated the process of manually entering the module grades and work experiences in allhires. That did save me a huge chunk of time! And it was accurate (with all the entries!)

Task automation by augmenting the AI seems to be efficient, especially for such repetitive tasks.
Please explain the comet browser cuz I’m tired of manually inputting my work experience 🥹
 
You don't need to do this though? AllHires allows you to centrally add all your grades - mine were in there from when I last applied in 2013!
Work experience is the issue. You can update education, but for some reason in their portal, they're missing the option to update your work experience too so you end up having to input it manually each time. It only saved my work experience from the first time I used it I think, so this year, it's been a lot of manual inputting.
 
Work experience is the issue. You can update education, but for some reason in their portal, they're missing the option to update your work experience too so you end up having to input it manually each time. It only saved my work experience from the first time I used it I think, so this year, it's been a lot of manual inputting.
I definitely have this issue with Vantage but with AllHires it seems to remember for me - odd you don't have the same. They're all a bit clunky andinconsistent though. Feels like a business opportunity…
 
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Hey @Andrei Radu @Abbie Whitlock I have an AC coming up and wanted to ask if you guys had any advice on how to tackle the case study elements? There will be 2 x case studies- one where I'm given a bundle and have to present for 10 mins followed by questions where they act as the client. [Here, I'm looking to structure my presentation as issue- impact - solution but do share if you think of alternative structures]

I believe there will also be a contract so apart from familiarising myself with contracts terms, is there anything else you suggest, as these always throw me off!

The second is a little difficult- here, the Partner [from any dept] will verbally disclose a project they are/have worked on. I'll take notes, and after, they will quiz me what I would do in their position on matters x,y,z

I've read Andrei's post on the best resources for AC prep which has been incredibly useful, along with Jacob's post. Was wondering if you had any other thoughts? I've been told the Partners will also challenge me too, so I imagine it's about striking a balance here with justifying my positions or, considering alternatives if they suit better.
 
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Work experience is the issue. You can update education, but for some reason in their portal, they're missing the option to update your work experience too so you end up having to input it manually each time. It only saved my work experience from the first time I used it I think, so this year, it's been a lot of manual inputting.
I think this is due to firms doing it differently. Some want the most recent first, some want the oldest first. Some have extra inputs like adding how many years and months you have worked at company x despite having a drop down with the dates...
 
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I definitely have this issue with Vantage but with AllHires it seems to remember for me - odd you don't have the same. They're all a bit clunky andinconsistent though. Feels like a business opportunity…
Re this, does anyone know how to edit the work experience section in vantage? It fills out automatically for me but it’s outdated and id like to change it instead of having to manually edit it each time
Thanks 🙏🏻
 

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