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TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2025-26

CharlieandLola

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Has anybody had experience with the Walker Morris AC? Would appreciate any advice :)
Yeah! I did it last year. There will be a group presentation where you get to choose between two topics, ours was AI and sustainability and then an interview which is you and another candidate being interviewed by graduate recruitment at the same time. None of the questions were insane just make sure to really brush up on your commercial awareness and whats going on in the world, especially the north!
 
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Abbie Whitlock

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Hi @Abbie Whitlock (@Jaysen and for others generally),

I am getting the feeling that this year's cycle has been more complex and challenging than before, especially with so many post AC rejections. I can't understand if this is due to firm's offering more ACs, just a reporting bias where more people are sharing unsuccessful AC experiences, if any application process changes are contributing to this, or some other reason.

If people have an AC coming up what's the best way to get it right ? I am feeling an increased amount of pressure due to a past failure to convert vacation schemes and unsuccessful ACs. I am assuming many others like me have developed a slight fear of failure where the joy of progressing is often overweighed by the fear of failing at that stage, staking everything on it and all the pressures that come with it, also the paralysis that follows from all this stress but also uncertainty, constant changes to the process, and maybe even increased post AC rejections. I am grateful to have an AC but as I only have one at the moment, I am increasingly afraid that is my only shot at this. I have wasted quite about bit of time in this paralysis and fear of failure before an interview. I was wondering how to make the most of the time I have left so that I feel confident enough in how I perform during the AC regardless of the result ?

I think someone also pointed out that they had contrasting feedback from ACs which messed up their subsequent AC. I had similar experiences, where either an extremely minor point or previous feedback really messed up another interview. How do I get out of my own head, and really focus on this specific interview or AC, without being overly conscious about previous feedback, and also how should I address any questions about why I was unable to convert previous schemes without it seeming like a redflag in terms of my skills or potential ?

I would also appreciate any tips on group exercises as I have not done one for an AC before, and they always seem to be a bit intense!
Hello!

You are definitely not alone in feeling like this, and post-AC rejections can be really discouraging - particularly as it feels like you got so close!

It is very difficult to know whether things are objectively more competitive, or whether there is more visibility of rejections as people are sharing them more. I imagine it is probably a mixture of both, particularly as use of AI has increased and there are increasingly more applicants for every TC!

On how to "get it right" at an AC, it is tricky to give definitive advice as many firms will be assessing different things (and I have failed many ACs in the past!). However, instead of thinking "this is my only shot", it might help to reframe it as:
  • This is one performance
  • My job is to show my interest in the firm and be commercial and collaborative
  • I can do all that I can, but the outcome is not fully within my control
I found that pressure often comes from treating the AC as a verdict on your potential. It definitely is not - overall, it is an assessment of your performance on one day, at one specific firm. Just because you are unsuccessful at one AC, this doesn't mean you don't have the potential - it simply means you might not be a good fit for that firm (which is okay!).

I actually think the thing that made the difference for me at my Reed Smith direct TC AC was a shift in mindset. I (slightly naively!) thought I was very likely to receive a post-VS offer from the scheme I'd completed a week before, so I went into the AC with far less pressure on myself. Instead of thinking "this has to work", I approached it as an opportunity to show my interest in the firm, have good conversations, and perform to the best of my ability. This ended up making me calmer, more natural, and overall more present in the conversations I was having. Whilst I was still 'desperate' to do well in the AC as I really liked the firm, I wasn't overanalysing every answer or trying to be perfect.

Therefore, whilst I appreciate it is difficult to not think about the "this has to work" pressure at an AC, there is value in trying to reframe it as being one opportunity to perform well, rather than the only opportunity or a final judgment on your ability - this shift alone could help you be calmer and more focused on the day!

In terms of using your time well before the AC, I would:
  1. Practise structuring answers out loud, particularly for the more common interview questions (e.g. "Why Law", "Why this Firm", etc.)
  2. Revisit any core commercial themes, particularly those that are relevant to the firm you are interviewing at, and practise applying them to commercial news stories that you read online
  3. Try to practice written exercises and case studies - there are a few examples available on TCLA and online if you need them!
  4. For group exercises: these can be difficult to prepare for in advance, but remember to: focus on facilitating the discussion rather than dominating it, summarise ideas as you go along, and keep the group on track to ensure you finish the task on time.
On your question about feedback, I get what you mean as I have definitely received conflicting feedback in the past! In my first post-VS rejection I was told that I needed to work on my commercial awareness, as this is where I had scored the lowest - this was a few months after I was runner-up in BIUCAC, so I hadn't expected that!

Contradictory feedback is, unfortunately, very common - different assessors and firms will prioritise different qualities, so what one interviewer flags may not even register with another. Rather than trying to change your performance every time, I would focus on the core fundamentals: be clear and confident in your motivation for the firm, discuss commercial issues in a structured and logical way, and ultimately present yourself authentically. Consistency in those areas is far more powerful than trying to adapt for every firm or piece of feedback, and will ensure that you end up at the firm that is the best fit for you overall!

I generally have not been asked on why I was unable to convert previous schemes, but if you are asked, I would simply keep it neutral and focus on how you have grown since then. You could discuss what you learnt on the scheme and the feedback that you were given, and then explain the steps that you have taken to act on that feedback and apply that learning (e.g. being more proactive, refining commercial analysis, etc.). Firms understand that some firms have low conversion rates, or you might have had a bad day at the AC which meant you weren't able to convert - they won't view it negatively, provided you can show the steps you have taken to improve.

On group exercises, I have written a few posts on this previously - I have quoted them below. Just shout if you have any specific questions, and I can address those! Overall, I think it is just important to show the graduate recruitment team / assessors that you would be someone that is easy to work with and can work well within a team. This often matters more than getting the right answer, or speaking the most!

You have already shown resilience by getting to another AC, and that suggests that you are absolutely capable of securing a TC - it's all about finding the firm that is the right fit for you overall. Best of luck with the AC, I'm sure you will smash it! :)

Hi @LegallyBrunette_ !

Huge congratulations on being invited to AC - what a fantastic achievement!

In the AC that I completed for my TC, I had to complete both a group exercise and a case study interview, so I can understand wanting to do all you can to prepare in advance. I can share what worked best for me!

Group Exercise
  • In the group exercise, they are typically looking at how you work with others, not just what you contribute. Be collaborative, listen actively, and build on other people's points.
  • Aim to contribute regularly but avoid dominating - asking others for their views on a topic can show leadership without being overbearing. I would always aim to not be the loudest or the quietest in the room, although I know finding this balance can be quite tricky!
  • Keep the group focused on the task! I would always try and keep track of your progress and summarise the key decisions made as you go along.
  • If you have to select an idea, don't worry if yours isn't chosen. What matters is how you respond and whether you support the group's direction.

Case Study Interview
  • You'll usually be given a business / legal scenario with background documents. I would start by reading quickly to understand the big picture, and then go back to confirm the smaller details.
  • Structure your response clearly - identify the client's goals, outline the key issues, and suggest practical next steps.
  • They won't expect you to know black-letter law. Focus on logic, prioritisation, and showing that you can think commercially.
  • Talk the interviewer through your thought process - even if you get stuck or seem confused, they can see how you reason.
  • If given a contract to assess, make a note of the exceptions and calculations in the contract. You might be asked how your stance would change if X event occurred, and it's useful to be mindful of when it might fall under any exceptions.
I would also brush up on Jones Day's structure (e.g. their non-rotational training system and international work) just in case it comes up. They're assessing potential, not perfection - so as long as you stay calm and do your best, you'll be fine.

At the end of the day, they want to see the real you - someone who can think clearly, work well with others, and stay composed under pressure. If you go in with a collaborative mindset and a clear structure for approaching problems, you'll put yourself in a strong position.

Best of luck - you've already done the hard part by getting to this stage! :)

Hello!

First of all, huge congratulations on being invited to the PwC virtual AC - that's an amazing achievement! Whilst I'm not too sure on the specifics of PwC's AC, I can share some general advice when it comes to preparing for a virtual assessment centre, as I completed a few last cycle. I have also quoted some of my previous posts below that discuss other assessment types that might be useful, as I wasn't too sure what is involved in the PwC AC.

Some general tips:
  • Prepare the basics: you may have already been doing this, but make sure you understand PwC's values, business areas, and the current market issues that will affect them. You don't need to know absolutely everything (so try not to panic!), but it's good to have an awareness of what PwC does so that you can link this to why you are interested
  • For group exercises: usually, the focus of the group exercise isn't actually what you say - it is how you interact and communicate with the others around you. Focus on being collaborative rather than trying to dominate the conversation - I always tried to be neither the quietest nor the loudest (which can be a tricky balance!). I found this particularly challenging for virtual ACs where it can be difficult to get the timing right, but try to listen actively and build on others' ideas. When you do present your part of the group exercise, make sure to clearly explain your reasoning and thought process!
  • For interviews: if you are asked competency questions, it's always helpful to have the STAR structure in the back of your mind, and have a few examples ready that show teamwork, problem-solving, and resilience. As part of my preparation for assessment centres, I used to spend an hour or so just noting down all my experiences and what skills / competencies came out of each. This means you aren't desperately racking your brain for examples in the moment!
  • Virtual elements: it sounds silly, but make sure that you test your technology beforehand (i.e. WiFi, camera, microphone) and choose a quiet space - I even made sure to let all of my housemates know so that none of them disturbed me. I would make sure that you have water and a notebook nearby, as you never know when you might need to jot something down.
Most importantly, be yourself! Focus on showing how you think and work with others when you are performing at your best, rather than trying to be "perfect" overall. Firms are often looking for potential, not perfection!

Everyone is nervous going into ACs, so you're definitely not alone! You've earned your place there by excelling in the process so far - so just go into it and try your best :) Wishing you the best of luck, you've got this! 💪
 

Bruce Wayne Attorney at Law

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Hello!

You are definitely not alone in feeling like this, and post-AC rejections can be really discouraging - particularly as it feels like you got so close!

It is very difficult to know whether things are objectively more competitive, or whether there is more visibility of rejections as people are sharing them more. I imagine it is probably a mixture of both, particularly as use of AI has increased and there are increasingly more applicants for every TC!

On how to "get it right" at an AC, it is tricky to give definitive advice as many firms will be assessing different things (and I have failed many ACs in the past!). However, instead of thinking "this is my only shot", it might help to reframe it as:
  • This is one performance
  • My job is to show my interest in the firm and be commercial and collaborative
  • I can do all that I can, but the outcome is not fully within my control
I found that pressure often comes from treating the AC as a verdict on your potential. It definitely is not - overall, it is an assessment of your performance on one day, at one specific firm. Just because you are unsuccessful at one AC, this doesn't mean you don't have the potential - it simply means you might not be a good fit for that firm (which is okay!).

I actually think the thing that made the difference for me at my Reed Smith direct TC AC was a shift in mindset. I (slightly naively!) thought I was very likely to receive a post-VS offer from the scheme I'd completed a week before, so I went into the AC with far less pressure on myself. Instead of thinking "this has to work", I approached it as an opportunity to show my interest in the firm, have good conversations, and perform to the best of my ability. This ended up making me calmer, more natural, and overall more present in the conversations I was having. Whilst I was still 'desperate' to do well in the AC as I really liked the firm, I wasn't overanalysing every answer or trying to be perfect.

Therefore, whilst I appreciate it is difficult to not think about the "this has to work" pressure at an AC, there is value in trying to reframe it as being one opportunity to perform well, rather than the only opportunity or a final judgment on your ability - this shift alone could help you be calmer and more focused on the day!

In terms of using your time well before the AC, I would:
  1. Practise structuring answers out loud, particularly for the more common interview questions (e.g. "Why Law", "Why this Firm", etc.)
  2. Revisit any core commercial themes, particularly those that are relevant to the firm you are interviewing at, and practise applying them to commercial news stories that you read online
  3. Try to practice written exercises and case studies - there are a few examples available on TCLA and online if you need them!
  4. For group exercises: these can be difficult to prepare for in advance, but remember to: focus on facilitating the discussion rather than dominating it, summarise ideas as you go along, and keep the group on track to ensure you finish the task on time.
On your question about feedback, I get what you mean as I have definitely received conflicting feedback in the past! In my first post-VS rejection I was told that I needed to work on my commercial awareness, as this is where I had scored the lowest - this was a few months after I was runner-up in BIUCAC, so I hadn't expected that!

Contradictory feedback is, unfortunately, very common - different assessors and firms will prioritise different qualities, so what one interviewer flags may not even register with another. Rather than trying to change your performance every time, I would focus on the core fundamentals: be clear and confident in your motivation for the firm, discuss commercial issues in a structured and logical way, and ultimately present yourself authentically. Consistency in those areas is far more powerful than trying to adapt for every firm or piece of feedback, and will ensure that you end up at the firm that is the best fit for you overall!

I generally have not been asked on why I was unable to convert previous schemes, but if you are asked, I would simply keep it neutral and focus on how you have grown since then. You could discuss what you learnt on the scheme and the feedback that you were given, and then explain the steps that you have taken to act on that feedback and apply that learning (e.g. being more proactive, refining commercial analysis, etc.). Firms understand that some firms have low conversion rates, or you might have had a bad day at the AC which meant you weren't able to convert - they won't view it negatively, provided you can show the steps you have taken to improve.

On group exercises, I have written a few posts on this previously - I have quoted them below. Just shout if you have any specific questions, and I can address those! Overall, I think it is just important to show the graduate recruitment team / assessors that you would be someone that is easy to work with and can work well within a team. This often matters more than getting the right answer, or speaking the most!

You have already shown resilience by getting to another AC, and that suggests that you are absolutely capable of securing a TC - it's all about finding the firm that is the right fit for you overall. Best of luck with the AC, I'm sure you will smash it! :)
Thanks for the thoughtful and detailed response Abbie!
 
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trainee4u

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im curious, do law firms automatically send pfo's if you fall below the watson glaser threshold?

generally failing the WG is an automatic PFO, but they won't necessarily send it automatically.

WG is not very selective in the sense that if you set your threshold at say 36/40 then you exclude people who are actually 36/40 candidates but scored 32/40 due to the inherent variability between tests. That means it makes sense to reject people automatically who fall below a certain threshold that you've chosen but you don't want to necessarily automatically accept the higher candidates as there's too much randomness. So it's a "rejection-only" filter, and that filter will likely to be set a a "competent" rather than "amazingly outstanding" level, because by rejecting below "competent" most of the candidates you reject will indeed be unsuitable for the job, as opposed to the baby with bathwater approach where you reject people purely to filter out as quickly as possible because you're lazy and don't want to consider a larger set of criteria.

(I know that WBD used their magic mouse moving game they got from Temu after watching a Tiktok as the sole means of selecting candidates, but relying on one data point to select the best candidates is really bad practice.)
 

adf43256

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Thank you for the response! I'm just getting even more confused now. I did mine on the 3rd of December and have had radio silence since the confirmation that I completed it.

Really not sure what to read into it, or even if I should email to ask if they're still considering.
If it helps im in the exact same position. Did the job sim early jan and havent heard anything since
 

AryanAgg

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generally failing the WG is an automatic PFO, but they won't necessarily send it automatically.

WG is not very selective in the sense that if you set your threshold at say 36/40 then you exclude people who are actually 36/40 candidates but scored 32/40 due to the inherent variability between tests. That means it makes sense to reject people automatically who fall below a certain threshold that you've chosen but you don't want to necessarily automatically accept the higher candidates as there's too much randomness. So it's a "rejection-only" filter, and that filter will likely to be set a a "competent" rather than "amazingly outstanding" level, because by rejecting below "competent" most of the candidates you reject will indeed be unsuitable for the job, as opposed to the baby with bathwater approach where you reject people purely to filter out as quickly as possible because you're lazy and don't want to consider a larger set of criteria.

(I know that WBD used their magic mouse moving game they got from Temu after watching a Tiktok as the sole means of selecting candidates, but relying on one data point to select the best candidates is really bad practice.)
i know that clifford chance immediately sends the pfo if the threshold for progress is not met, dont know about winston & strawn though.
 

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