TCLA Direct Training Contract Applications Discussion Thread 2024-5

[LegallyStressedOut]

Does anyone know whether Morgan Lewis will continue to send out TIs?

 

[LegallyStressedOut]

Has anyone heard from Orrick post WG?

 

[Tangcy]

just received my results today and i got a 2:1 from a low RG uni. Can't help but feel like my city law firm dreams just went down the drain...😭

 

[EG3]

just received my results today and i got a 2:1 from a low RG uni. Can't help but feel like my city law firm dreams just went down the drain...😭

I got a 2:1 (non-law) and got past the first stage for several city firms, including a US one (I just suck at online tests)

More applicants probably have a 2:1 than a first, so its what you do on top of your academics that can really make your app stand out. Obviously some firms value grades, but for others its just a checkbox and they like seeing what else you've done/can do.

2:1 is what you need for the large majority of graduate roles, it's a good achievement - well done!

 

[FM302989]

just received my results today and i got a 2:1 from a low RG uni. Can't help but feel like my city law firm dreams just went down the drain...😭

I don't understand what this means?

You've graduated from a Russel Group Uni with a 2:1? Congratulations are in order! Well done, onwards and upwards and keep applying!

 

[helloj]

Is there a point in applying for White n Case DTC if I applied for the vac scheme and did not get past the app stage? Especially as they usually hire from the schemes and I am looking to apply for a vac scheme in the next cycle?

 

[Amma Usman]

For those that may be interested, I just wanted to flag that Bird & Bird’s first year scheme closes on the 3rd of July! Best of luck to those interested. When I was offered the role back then , I remember it was just an application form - so ensure to make your answers fully tailored to the firm, commercial law, and your long-term goals!

 

[TortillaTC]

just received my results today and i got a 2:1 from a low RG uni. Can't help but feel like my city law firm dreams just went down the drain...😭

I have a lower/mid 2.1 equivalent in undergrad from a non-UK uni and I made it to AC with multiple top firms (SC, other large UK firms, and US, no MC though). Also have no ties to the UK. While they might assess foreign grades differently, I think most firms really do just want to see decent A-levels (or equivalents) and a 2.1 from a reputable uni. I see no reason to worry but you will probably need impressive work experience and other activities to match the level of first class and/or Oxbridge grads. And there are the few firms that do openly care more about top grades like Slaughters or Sullcrom or Jones Day - but honestly there are so many other firms.

 

[Amma Usman]

just received my results today and i got a 2:1 from a low RG uni. Can't help but feel like my city law firm dreams just went down the drain...😭

A 2:1 is a fantastic achievement - huge congratulations to you! That’s no easy feat, and you should be really proud of yourself.

Just to share some reassurance: I didn’t study at a Russell Group university, and I still progressed to final stages (and received offers) from several top law firms and financial institutions. Your dreams are definitely still valid. Focus on crafting a strong application strategy, building a solid network, and showcasing your unique strengths - you’ve absolutely got this.

 

[Amma Usman]

Is there a point in applying for White n Case DTC if I applied for the vac scheme and did not get past the app stage? Especially as they usually hire from the schemes and I am looking to apply for a vac scheme in the next cycle?

The only thing I have to flag from here is that if the firm has a policy whereby you can‘t apply twice in the same cycle, then unfortunately you won’t be able to apply. Check this with the firm/ their website to confirm.

If they don’t have that policy though, then you can apply. I just checked and saw that it’s non-rolling - meaning all applications will be considered regardless of when submitted.

 

[BillSikes]

Browne Jackson rejection post TI.

I need to lock in.

 

[Amma Usman]

Hi everyone, first time posting on here! I've just received an email to say I've been invited to take the Reed Smith virtual assessment and interview - if anyone has any tips I would be extremely grateful for any replies or DMs. I am pretty nervous as I've never done a virtual interview like this before!

I presume this is an online assessment and virtual interview. Here are some tips from @Andrei Radu to help - https://www.thecorporatelawacademy....de-for-competency-interview-preparation.9380/

 

[Amma Usman]

Hi everyone, first time posting on here! I've just received an email to say I've been invited to take the Reed Smith virtual assessment and interview - if anyone has any tips I would be extremely grateful for any replies or DMs. I am pretty nervous as I've never done a virtual interview like this before!

I am unsure about the test structure for the firm, so I have linked a screenshot to help with general law firm assessments. It mainly centres on SJTs though. So, even if it’s not directly applicable to this firm, I’m sure you’ll find it useful for some other purpose. Best of luck - we’re rooting for you!

 

[Amma Usman]

Does anyone know whether Morgan Lewis will continue to send out TIs?

I will still keep put some hope, largely as I know law firms usually process these in different timelines, such as how early one submitted their application, completed an assessment, etc. Sometimes, these review responsibilities are also divided between the early careers team, in which case a reason you may have not heard back is because they are still sifting through applications. In the meantime, I suggest keeping up with interview prep, researching other firms, solidifying that commercial awareness, and above all - prioritising your mental health through it all!

 

[ReedSmithBecca]

If we haven’t heard from RS is it a PFO? Did an open day with them too…

We are still screening applications and, as applications are reviewed on a rolling basis, we are moving successful candidates through to the next stage in batches. If you haven't heard back yet, that does not mean you've been unsuccessful. We are aiming to communicate all outcomes within 1 month of the deadline but please do bare with us!

 

[ReedSmithBecca]

I applied on the deadline, as well. Do you think if they haven’t gotten back to me today then it’s likely a no? Sorry, I’m new to the TC application stuff.

I've replied to a similar question below but in short we are still reviewing applications so do not assume anything

 

[RS Sanjanaa]

Hi, if anyone can guide me with the lateral recruitment status in UK for law firms, please DM!

 

[Amma Usman]

Hi @Chandana Surthi ,

It’s great to hear you’re interested in applying.

You can apply to opportunities from your home country. I’d just be mindful that not all firms sponsor visas for intl students for vacation schemes (VS). Most people I know of applied to direct training contracts (TC) and were able to secure offers from their home country. I’d also be mindful of the fact that some firms now hold final assessment centre stages in person, and if you don’t have a UK visa/ travel support, it may be difficult to attend these. While some firms are able to happily pay for these costs, it is not always guaranteed. There is also some flexibility as when you explain your situation to the firm, they may allow you to interview online.

Additionally, I know of many people that complete LLMs in the UK, or some other postgraduate course in the UK. That way, if the scheme falls outside your term dates, you’re able to complete a vacation scheme and get considered for a TC. However, ensure to have a solid application strategy such that you will be able to ace that first cycle of applications, since most masters courses are only 1 year. I also know of people that didn’t get TCs in their first masters year, but went on to switch to a graduate visa and start off a paralegal role at great firms. Many were able to get TCs at other firms within those two years of applying, or even at their paralegal firm.

Lastly, I also know of lawyers that have previously done LLMs at prestigious universities in the UK, and who are foreign qualified lawyers, that have been hired directly at NQ level.

Linklaters also offers an Indian Clerkship for Indian students.

Sidley Austin is another firm I know that sponsors visas for vacation schemes.

So in short, there are many possibilities. It’s all about looking within and knowing which best fits your long-term goals and unique circumstances.

Best wishes, and let us know if you’ve got any more questions.

Hi, if anyone can guide me with the lateral recruitment status in UK for law firms, please DM!

@RS Sanjanaa , the post above should help. Let me know if you have any questions at all.

 

[Amma Usman]

Browne Jackson rejection post TI.

I need to lock in.

I’m sorry about this. I know rejections hurt, and it’s okay to feel that. But making it that far means something - it means you belong. One "no" doesn’t undo the potential they saw in you, and it definitely doesn’t touch what’s coming next. Take a breath, feel what you need to feel, then lock back in. You’re closer than you think. Amidst it all, please prioritise your mental health and clarity, and still be gentle with yourself. Best wishes - rooting for you

 

[TortillaTC]

We are still screening applications and, as applications are reviewed on a rolling basis, we are moving successful candidates through to the next stage in batches. If you haven't heard back yet, that does not mean you've been unsuccessful. We are aiming to communicate all outcomes within 1 month of the deadline but please do bare with us!

I see, thank you for letting us know!