Does anyone actually know if Mayer Brown offers TCs from the direct TC process? They say that they primarily recruit from their VS and with only 15 TCs, I find it had to believe that they cannot find 15 people sufficiently good.
From my experience it was as they were calling, but I'm not sure if they made them all on the same day. This also wasn't for the GSA so it might be different but they probably will make all of the offers on the same day as I know the cohort for that is smaller.Does anyone know if CMS offers are staggered or not?
We'll see, should hear back from KN on Monday. Thank you, that's deffo made me a bit more hopeful. Seems like such a gamble with these firms haha xNot sure if it's any consolation, but I've never progressed past SJT at Withers but approached their SJT and the KN one pretty much the same way last cycle and did progress at KN--I wonder if a lot of it is down to culture/ a specific type of personality the firm prefers.
Yes I think this is the case too. Heard of a few people receive calls today with an offer so I know it’s a PFO for me. Oh well, next cycle we go! Thank youFrom my experience it was as they were calling, but I'm not sure if they made them all on the same day. This also wasn't for the GSA so it might be different but they probably will make all of the offers on the same day as I know the cohort for that is smaller.
Hello!Hi @Abbie Reed Smith @Abbie Whitlock I have an upcoming insight day/final stage interview for a direct training contract- this is the last stage of it and I'd love some advice/insight for what you think I should be doing if that's okay!
The insight day is all day, has a lot of different talks ill be attending such as a trainee talk, networking lunch, sessions from different legal teams, all in which I can ask questions.
For the final stage interview, it doesnt say anything much at all. All it says is that its 30-45 mins and to think of the role of a trainee solicitor at that firm, and do research on the firm for preparation.
I have done the AC there and had an interview already, so I have no idea what to expect from this
Do you think the sessions throughout the day are assessed? Also for the interview, what sorts of questions should I be preparing? 'Role of a trainee solicitor'- what questions could they be asking? I also dont know if this stage is a cutting stage where they are still removing people at this stage, or everyone who gets invited to this last part of the process they believe can do the job and will offer them a TC as long as they like them!
Thank you and hope this is okay!![]()
Thank you so much for this I really really appreciate it! Have a great dayHello!
Congratulations on being invited to the final stage interview!!
For the insight day, I would assume that everything is at least informally assessed (even if it doesn't state that you will be formally assessed on it). Even if there is no set marking, it is likely that people will notice how engaged, curious, and personable you are, which will likely contribute to their final decision-making. This doesn't mean that you need to be overly intense (+ I would definitely avoid this) - I'd just make sure that you are switched on, ask lots of thoughtful questions, and show a genuine interest in the firm and its people. The networking lunch and trainee talk are a really good opportunity to show that you would be a good fit for the firm, and that you'd be a great person to work with.
In terms of questions to ask during the day, I would just make sure to go beyond the obvious (i.e. what you might find on their website) and ask anything you are genuinely curious about. For example:
For the final interview, it is difficult to say what they'll be asking, but I'd say it is likely to be more about confirming your motivations for the firm, your understanding of the trainee role, and ensuring that you are a good cultural fit.
- Ask trainees about their actual day-to-day work and what surprised them the most
- Ask teams about recent matters or trends that is affecting their practice area or clients
- Show commercial awareness and research by linking questions to things that the firm has been involved in
When they say "think about the role of a trainee solicitor", they are often referring to things like:
Therefore, whilst I wouldn't be able to predict the exact questions that could come up, it might be questions such as "what do you think makes a good trainee at our firm?", "what challenges do you think trainees face?", or "why do you think you would succeed here specifically?". You might also get a more scenario-style question or strengths-based question too (i.e. dealing with competing deadlines or unclear instructions).
- What do trainees actually do? (i.e. not just "assist partners")
- The skills that make a good trainee (e.g. attention to detail, teamwork, managing deadlines, communication, etc.)
- How you would handle responsibility, constructive feedback, a busy workload, etc.
As it is the final stage, I would make sure that you have clear answers for the motivational questions as they likely want you to go into more depth. I would try to refer to specific practice areas, clients, or the culture of the firm, and always try to find a way to link it back to yourself, your working style, and your past experiences.
Again, it's tricky to know whether this is a cutting stage, so I'd focus on showing that you would be someone that they can picture as a colleague. Often, once you get to these final stages, they already think you can do the job - it is more about being a good cultural fit.
I would treat the whole day as one long interview, but don't lose your personality in the process! Things like being engaged and easy to talk to really go a long way, and make you memorable!
Wishing you the very best of luck - you've got this!!![]()
Haven't heard anything yet! Recent holding email says the latest we'll hear back is May 29th but that's likely the PFO date. Should hear back next week if successful.Ashurst anyone?
I wonder how KN grades their SJT, as the video pitch invites go out the day after the test is due... Am applying this year too and just noticed--good luck to both of us anyway!We'll see, should hear back from KN on Monday. Thank you, that's deffo made me a bit more hopeful. Seems like such a gamble with these firms haha x
Did you get the email earlier outlining the timeline for KN process? Is it just a formality they're sending to everyone, or does it mean we've been successful in the SJT?I wonder how KN grades their SJT, as the video pitch invites go out the day after the test is due... Am applying this year too and just noticed--good luck to both of us anyway!
I think they send it to everyone that pass the written application stage. I’ve also received itDid you get the email earlier outlining the timeline for KN process? Is it just a formality they're sending to everyone, or does it mean we've been successful in the SJT?
No ...and I wonder why...Has anyone heard from SH or Bakers post app or are they both still hibernating until 2030…
Nothing from either....the wait continuesHas anyone heard from SH or Bakers post app or are they both still hibernating until 2030…
I got it before I submitted the SJT so it definitely doesn't mean anything and has just been sent to those who progressed to SJT (ie not rejected immediately post app)Did you get the email earlier outlining the timeline for KN process? Is it just a formality they're sending to everyone, or does it mean we've been successful in the SJT?