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  1. gg332dd

    gg332dd Active Member

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    Hi Jessica, i was wondering if we can make a subject access request to see our WG/psychometric test results done at the application stage? If yes, do we ask graduate recruitment or need to find the data protection officer of the firm?
     
  2. Jessica Booker

    Jessica Booker Legendary Member
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    I wouldn’t go straight in with a SAR. Instead I would email grad Rec explaining you understand that under data regulation you can access this data the firm holds on you, and therefore can they provide it.

    If they don’t respond within a reasonable timeframe (day two weeks) or they refuse to provide it, then put in a SAR request and I would copy in the Grad Rec team and the data point of contact. Be mindful a SAR request can take up to 90 days to be returned
     
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  3. gg332dd

    gg332dd Active Member

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    Thank you Jessica, that does sound more reasonable.
     
  4. Alison C

    Alison C Standard Member

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    Hmm, I see the dilemma.

    I'd still do the research, and I guess I'd do some lists - pros/cons, etc. This is a marathon, not a sprint, and you could even consider the SQE instead. Some firms (eg Mishcon de Reya) are already embracing it, and it is coming whether we like it or not! Would you be able to do the LPC part-time at a preferred provider? No courses are actually cheap, and again I'd ask you to ask yourself, which one is going to make me a better lawyer? Could you go onto the Student Room forum and find some LPC alumni? When I was researching my GDL, I looked mainly at U Westminster, BPP and U Law. The first had a totally chaotic open evening; the second had lots of alumni who didn't recommend it. I plumped for U Law - far from perfect but the best of the bunch, for me.

    If you can work part time, you may find that the two years fly by. If you start paralegalling, you will be gaining SQE-valid experience anyway.
     
  5. Jessica Booker

    Jessica Booker Legendary Member
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    To be frank about it, no LPC course makes you a better lawyer.

    If you were to go the SQE route, there would make no sense in doing the LPC.
     
  6. KieranH

    KieranH Standard Member

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    Hi Jessica

    I was wondering what your view is on using bullet points in the "Work Experience" section of TC/VS applications? I have noticed a couple of firms have said not to use them (ones I am not applying to). My current method has been to introduce the experience and a significant impact I made in full sentences, then list the key responsibilities and skills developed in bullet points.

    Would you recommend to remove all bullet points, and use full sentences throughout?

    Thanks
     
  7. Jessica Booker

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    If the form allows to you to format bullet points (like this forum does), then use them.

    If it is just a free text box with no formatting, then I would go with full sentences.
     

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    Jade C Standard Member

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    Hi Jessica

    I am currently completing my application for TLT's vacation scheme and the platform they use is one I have not come across before. There are two brief sections for career history and education history. Should I include work experience in the career's history section? Also, rather than just the month and year it asks for exact start dates and finish dates, how should I go about this if I am unable to remember the exact dates of some entries?

    Thank you!
     
  9. Jessica Booker

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    yes - work experience in the career history section, it’s just another name for it.

    I’d spend time trying to work out the exact dates if you can. It can be important for on boarding checks. If the experience is over 6 months long, then just put the first of the month or the nearest date you think it started/ended. If it is a shorter placement that you can’t work the dates out for, then in the description make sure you are clear how long it was for, just in case (eg four week internship, 2 day insight programme, 4 month placement).
     
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  10. Dwight

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    How does NRF require their cover letter to be structured?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  11. Jessica Booker

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    Any cover letter will need to be structured.

    do you mean does it need formalities (like addresses/dates) etc?
     
  12. Dwight

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    I meant is there a specific structure for the NRF cover letter, or just the usual: why law, why us, why me?

    Also who should I address the cover letter to?

    Thanks in advance
     
  13. Jessica Booker

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    Unless it’s covered in other sections of the application, then why the firm, why the opportunity, why you (those three things can be in any order though).

    Law careers.net says the following (attached)
     

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  14. florence1023

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    hi jessica, i am preparing for a VS interview and i was wondering what recruiters or partners expect from students whey they ask us to introduce ourselves. thanks in advance for your help :)
     
  15. Jessica Booker

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    Consider it like an elevator pitch. It’s just a question to settle you in to the interview and see if you can communicate in a concise but engaging manner.
     
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    Hi Jessica, I was wondering how to write about insight days in work experience sections. I have around 6 insights days on my CV but usually bunch them together in one input with only a line describing each day. I was wondering if I should split them into two inputs and describe them a little more or keep them in one input?
     
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    Hi!
    I am struggling a bit to incorporate some of my experience within my applications. I did an internship at a commercial bank this summer and am unsure of how to mention it and how it could link to law. I am very conscious of coming across as if I would actually prefer a career in banking (100% not the case) and don’t know how wise it is to mention it despite it being one of my more substantial and professional experiences. Any advice (from anyone) would be great! Thanks!
     
  18. Jessica Booker

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    I’d go with how you have it currently. Splitting them out seems a bit excessive for 6 insight/open days.
     
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  19. Jessica Booker

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    you don’t have to link it to law. Just focus the description of what your responsibilities were and what your impact was.

    Deal with any aspects of why you are not pursuing that career in your why commercial law/why a trainee section.
     
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    Hi Jessica,

    I'm currently writing an app for a firm and I'm stuck on how to approach the last question which is 'what does it means to be a professional?' I've never come across this type of question before.

    I have identified three qualities that I believe all professionals should have (competence, honesty/respect for clients and personal accountability/responsibility) but I'm not sure whether the question is asking me just to talk about these qualities, or whether it implicitly wants me to link those qualities back to my own experiences in some way.

    On one hand, it doesn't expressly say 'give examples of times you have demonstrated your professionalism' or some other variant of that, but on the other, I can't help but think that by just talking about the qualities and not linking it back to myself it will just degrade into spouting jargon that doesn't really mean anything.

    What do you think?
     

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