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  1. Ben E

    Ben E New Member

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    Thank you!
     
  2. Matt_96

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    When a firm asks you to talk specifically about the positions of responsibility you have been in, is it acceptable to talk about a job, even though that could be covered by the work experience section? I recently worked as a waiter in a small restaurant which was fairly understaffed so I often had to take on responsibilities beyond my role, and it is something that I think could be a good example.

    My only current non-work related position of responsibility at university is volunteering at a law clinic and my other examples are not at all recent. The Law Clinic is something I'd be happy to talk about in-depth but I think I need one or two more as I have 300 words to fill.

    Would it be alright to talk about having a minor position on a sports club committee during 2nd year undergrad (that was in 2015-16 though, so quite a while ago) or perhaps as a student mentor during final year undergrad (2017-18)?
     
  3. Jessica Booker

    Jessica Booker Legendary Member
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    I’d expect the responsibilities for the waiter role to be described in your work experience section. Everyone knows what a waiter does, so explaining the understaffed piece is better there than telling them you served customers.

    law clinic is completely appropriate to include though.

    How long ago is “not recent”?

    you don’t have to fill 300 words.

    yes, I’d mention both the sport committee role and the student mentor role.
     
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    Thanks for the tip. The sports committee example is from 2015-16 and the student mentoring was from 2017-18
     
  5. Jessica Booker

    Jessica Booker Legendary Member
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    that’s recent enough to use them
     
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    Thanks!
     
  7. Kelvin

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    I start the LPC in Feb 2020 and am looking to move to London next month as a result. My firm gives the standard maintenance grant but I haven't heard from them about when I can expect to receive the grant. It would be ideal for me if it was paid out before I move to London... Thus, would you happen to know when maintenance grants are typically paid out (I can foresee that this probably varies per firm - but is it generally before the LPC begins at least)?

    Thank you.
     
  8. Judy

    Judy Active Member

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    Hi Jessica,

    Thanks for this!
    If I use my work experience in the PoR section, should I also list the additional responsibilities I was given in the work experience section and expand on them in the PoR section? Or leave them solely for the PoR section?

    Thanks,

    Judy
     
  9. LydiaS

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    Hi @Jessica Booker, I was wondering if graduate recruitment sometimes consider the institution where you have received your grades from when assessing candidates' application.

    I obtained a First in my law degree at a RG University (but one that is slightly lower ranked on the league tables). I've been told by some individuals that a First at my university does not equate to a first at UCL or LSE, and will therefore not be as well regarded had I received my grades at a higher-ranked University. This has been rather demoralising. I was wondering what are your thoughts on this?
     
  10. Jessica Booker

    Jessica Booker Legendary Member
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    the people you have spoken to don’t know what they are talking about. It’s fear mongering born from speculation, rumour and malice, typically to try and elevate the individuals of people at the institutions that are supposedly better - ignore it.

    1) There aren’t 100s of LSE/UCL grads with a first applying to firms. The idea that firms can rely on selecting out other RG unis is absurd

    2) firms aren’t just looking at academics. Plenty of first class UCL/LSE grads will be unsuccessful in the recruitment process even when they do apply
     
    #550 Jessica Booker, Dec 4, 2019 at 5:12 PM
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  11. Jessica Booker

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    Sorry if I am a little slow in responding over the next week! 1) I’m trying to prioritise some owed application forms (sorry for those still waiting) and 2) I’m in the middle of the Indian Ocean for the next 7 days :D
     
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    just contact them and explain your circumstances. When they pay it is very much down to each firm, but they can often flex things like when they pay it to support incoming trainees.
     
  13. Jessica Booker

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    no avoid any repetition. You can include it in either section if the positions of responsibility are outside of your day job, but where you put it, is up to you.
     
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    Hi @Jessica Booker , I had a question about Linklaters' TC application form. We are only allowed to include 3 work experience entries, and I am not sure what to prioritise: an entry on 10 open days/workshops at commercial law firms (including one at Linklaters), or a month-long law-related (but not commercial law-related) internship?

    Edit: my first two entries will be on internships at commercial law firms, if that makes any difference.

    Thank you!
     
  15. Judy

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    Thanks Jessica. Much appreciated
     
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    I don't really like the idea of hounding them for the money and it's not life or death, so I guess I'll just wait it out. Thanks (and enjoy your holiday!) :)
     
  17. Jaysen

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    For reference, I believe we were paid once term started (but it has been a while!). If you did need it earlier, I wouldn't actually worry too much about asking, I doubt it's much trouble for them!
     
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    Hi Jessica,

    Would recruiters view vacation scheme applications from those with a lot of legal experience differently?
     
  19. Kelvin

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    Thanks!
     
  20. Giulia

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    Hi Jessica, Thank you for helping us!!

    My questions are the following:

    One of my grades (55.5%) is currently under appeal and the Law Department at my uni is unlikely to share the result with me before the applications' deadlines come up.

    Would you suggest me to:
    1. Write down the grade and then note in the relevant box that the grade is currently under appeal? If so, would you also mention why I appealed?
    2. Write down something like "pending" and then explain in the relevant box?

    Similarly, I have mitigating circumstances which apply to exams I have taken in my first year as well as in my second year (to both high and low grades) but they are very different in nature. How would you advise me to proceed when explaining them in the relevant box in terms of priority, detail etc.? I believe that I am in a very peculiar circumstance so I have to make sure that the recruiter does not think I am making things up!

    Thank you for reading this, I really appreciate it!!
    Giulia
     

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