TCLA Direct Training Contract Applications Discussion Thread 2024-5

farrow

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    Hi, I applied on the day of the deadline (Sunday night) and received the VI invite the next day.
    Congratulations!

    Guess that counts as PFO for the rest of us, who applied and haven't received a VI invite.

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    Ram Sabaratnam

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    I have got my final year results back and I have three 2:1s and three 2:2s. My overall grade is a low 2:1. How low have my chances become of getting a training contract? For context, I am an international student and to stay in the UK, I would require a decent salary so that it meets the salary threshold to get a work visa but most well-paying firms demand a high 2:1 if I'm not wrong

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    Hiya @pleasepleaseplease

    Just wanted to add to the great advice you've already received. First off, well done on getting your results! I know it can feel discouraging when the numbers aren't exactly what you'd hoped for, but I want to reassure you that this absolutely doesn’t mean your chances are gone.

    Grades are (and I can't stress this enough) just one part of the bigger picture. I’ve seen candidates with 2:2s go on to land vacation schemes and training contracts at top City firms that offer visa sponsorship; and on the flip side, I’ve also seen Oxbridge grads with Firsts struggle to get past the application stage. That said, a low 2:1 still meets the academic cut-off for many firms. If you feel like there were any mitigating circumstances that contributed to the lower marks, definitely include them when appropriate.

    I think the best thing you can do now is focus on everything outside of your grades. Build out your commercial awareness, get some relevant legal or non-legal experience (even volunteering counts!), and most of all, work on writing sharp and well-researched applications. Good luck with your applications!
     

    Ram Sabaratnam

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    Just over a month ago I got an email from Sullivan and Cromwell saying they have reviewed my training contract application and want to place it on hold. I haven't heard anything back from them since. Does anyone know what this means?

    Hiya @Alex02! This usually means that your application hasn’t been decisively rejected; it’s still under consideration and may be moved forward depending on how the rest of the candidate pool shapes up. Given that it’s been over a month, I don't think there's any harm in politely following up to ask for an update. Hope you hear back with good news soon!
     

    Ram Sabaratnam

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    Question: any stats available across firms on how many TC go via VS alumni versus DTC?

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    Hiya @farrow

    It's actually quite difficult to get statistical information on this question. However, quite early into this application cycle, I'd managed to find out which firms mostly recruit from vacation schemes versus direct training contracts. You can find that thread here. Please note that some of this information has since changed for particular firms, but the thread still gives a largely accurate picture. Good luck with any remaining applications!
     
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    Ram Sabaratnam

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    Hi everyone, two questions:

    1. Is it fine to ask for details about your interviewers from graduate recruitment?

    2. Is it useful to know background information about your interviewers. If so, how do you bring up that you have done research on your interviewers in a way that is non-stalkerish lol

    Hiya @ilovegardening1111

    Great questions! Yep, it’s totally fine to ask graduate recruitment who your interviewers will be. However, just keep in mind that firms vary in how much they’re willing to share. Some will give you names ahead of time, which can help you prepare and feel more confident going in. Others prefer not to, which can be their way of keeping the process consistent or seeing how candidates perform without advance knowledge. Either way, there’s no harm in asking; just be prepared that the answer may be a polite no.

    If you do get the names, then I would definitely encourage you to look up your interviewers. It’s not about stalking; it’s about being curious and thoughtful. Normally, you'll bring this up at the end of your interview, when you're given a chance to ask questions of your interviewers. I once asked an interviewer about a dissertation she wrote during her undergrad that I learnt about through a podcast appearance she did. She was completely surprised and the panel was amused (in a good way). We ended up having a great conversation because of it. So don’t worry too much about seeming 'stalkerish'. If something in your interviewers' background genuinely connects with your interests or experience, it’s completely fine to mention it in the interview. You could say something like, “From my research, I saw that you worked on X; I’d love to hear more about what that experience was like.”

    Best of luck with any interviews you have coming up :)
     
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    ilovegardening1111

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    Hiya @ilovegardening1111

    Great questions! Yep, it’s totally fine to ask graduate recruitment who your interviewers will be. However, just keep in mind that firms vary in how much they’re willing to share. Some will give you names ahead of time, which can help you prepare and feel more confident going in. Others prefer not to, which can be their way of keeping the process consistent or seeing how candidates perform without advance knowledge. Either way, there’s no harm in asking; just be prepared that the answer may be a polite no.

    If you do get the names, then I would definitely encourage you to look up your interviewers. It’s not about stalking; it’s about being curious and thoughtful. Normally, you'll bring this up at the end of your interview, when you're given a chance to ask questions of your interviewers. I once asked an interviewer about a dissertation she wrote during her undergrad that I learnt about through a podcast appearance she did. She was completely surprised and the panel was amused (in a good way). We ended up having a great conversation because of it. So don’t worry too much about seeming 'stalkerish'. If something in your interviewers' background genuinely connects with your interests or experience, it’s completely fine to mention it in the interview. You could say something like, “From my research, I saw that you worked on X; I’d love to hear more about what that experience was like.”

    Best of luck with any interviews you have coming up :)
    Thank you so much Ram, really appreciate this advice! Is there a course or a thread which is focused on tackling ACs?
     

    Vdfrz20

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    Hey this is sort of unrelated (and congrats on the AC) but do you think it's still worth applying to HFW, or did anything indicate they've offered enough ACs to fill their intake? They're a dream firm for me but being employed distracted me from appreciating the fact that they're fully rolling. Thanks :)

    Congratulations!

    Guess that counts as PFO for the rest of us, who applied and haven't received a VI invite.

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    Yikes, i submitted the app on the day of the deadline too- well! The grind continues :)
     
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