General Discussion Thread 2020-21

[lawstudent2111]

Just received an email with a phone interview after passing the VI with CMS for first steps!

 

[traineehopeful29]

Has anyone heard back from Dentons spring/summer vac scheme post AC?

 

[Tcapplicant]

Anyone got any advice for Mishcon VI? Thank you so much to the people who have reached out already!

 

[BGBlaw]

I had an interview with Boodle should be hearing back sometime this week. Hope that helps!

Ah okay, expect it'll be PFO then haha - hope you hear back with good news!!

 

[polant]

Αnyone got any news from HFW for summer vacation?I have no news since December that i applied.Is this a silent PFO?

 

[BE123]

Anyone not heard back from BCLP for VS/TC? I applied in early December and seen lots of offers and rejections, but I’ve heard nothing!

 

[M&ALawyer]

Just been disqualified from a US firm's application process post interview, whilst they were in the process of making me an offer. The grounds for disqualification were that my module grades I entered on the application form did not match my transcript. I didn’t falsify any information but didn’t include some optional modules. I did this as I received explicit advice on their open day from Grad Rec that ‘it is not necessary to put down modules that don’t count to your final classification’. I'd also note that I'm on track for a first class grade at university - so my grades wouldn't have held me back.

It’s a horrible feeling, to have something you’ve worked so hard for taken away. The grades I didn’t include weren’t bad (they were all 2.1+), I was just told it was not necessary to put them down. It's even worse being accused by their grad rec of dishonesty and 'stealing someones place at interview', when I explained that I followed the advice they gave me.

Just some advice to people here, to ensure you avoid being in my situation:

1. Be aware of the policy of law firms to include all grades - I’m sure most people know this, but I was uncertain about this at the time I made my application, which is why I asked for clarification at the open day.
2. Be very wary of what grad rec say. Most of them are extremely friendly and informative. But it just takes one piece of bad advice to land you in my position.

Best of luck to everyone applying!

 

[Pallatablelawyer]

Just been disqualified from a US firm's application process post interview, whilst they were in the process of making me an offer. The grounds for disqualification were that my module grades I entered on the application form did not match my transcript. I didn’t falsify any information but didn’t include some optional modules. I did this as I received explicit advice on their open day from Grad Rec that ‘it is not necessary to put down modules that don’t count to your final classification’. I'd also note that I'm on track for a first class grade at university - so my grades wouldn't have held me back.

It’s a horrible feeling, to have something you’ve worked so hard for taken away. The grades I didn’t include weren’t bad (they were all 2.1+), I was just told it was not necessary to put them down. It's even worse being accused consistently by their grad rec of dishonesty and 'stealing someones place at interview', when I explained that I followed the advice they gave me.

Just some advice to people here, to ensure you avoid being in my situation:

1. Be aware of the policy of law firms to include all grades - I’m sure most people know this, but I was uncertain about this at the time I made my application, which is why I asked for clarification at the open day.
2. Be very wary of what grad rec say. Most of them are extremely friendly and informative. But it just takes one piece of bad advice to land you in my position.

Best of luck to everyone applying!

Wow

 

[NMD]

Ah okay, expect it'll be PFO then haha - hope you hear back with good news!!

No news is good news for the time being!

 

[kg]

I had my Weil AC for their summer VS today. Grad rec said I was the last person they were interviewing and that I’ll hear back soon, so I imagine you will too!

just got an offer for weils summer vs today - took about a week and a half to hear

 

[Jaysen]

Just been disqualified from a US firm's application process post interview, whilst they were in the process of making me an offer. The grounds for disqualification were that my module grades I entered on the application form did not match my transcript. I didn’t falsify any information but didn’t include some optional modules. I did this as I received explicit advice on their open day from Grad Rec that ‘it is not necessary to put down modules that don’t count to your final classification’. I'd also note that I'm on track for a first class grade at university - so my grades wouldn't have held me back.

It’s a horrible feeling, to have something you’ve worked so hard for taken away. The grades I didn’t include weren’t bad (they were all 2.1+), I was just told it was not necessary to put them down. It's even worse being accused consistently by their grad rec of dishonesty and 'stealing someones place at interview', when I explained that I followed the advice they gave me.

Just some advice to people here, to ensure you avoid being in my situation:

1. Be aware of the policy of law firms to include all grades - I’m sure most people know this, but I was uncertain about this at the time I made my application, which is why I asked for clarification at the open day.
2. Be very wary of what grad rec say. Most of them are extremely friendly and informative. But it just takes one piece of bad advice to land you in my position.

Best of luck to everyone applying!

Wow, that’s brave of you to share, I can only imagine how tough that must be.

This sounds strange though given they told you not to put it down at the open day - Were there a lot of grades you didn’t include?

 

[Zoo]

just got an offer for weils summer vs today - took about a week and a half to hear

Congratulations!!

 

[M&ALawyer]

Wow, that’s brave of you to share, I can only imagine how tough that must be.

This sounds strange though given they told you not to put it down at the open day - Were there a lot of grades you didn’t include?

It is really tough - especially as I was so invested in this firm in particular. It just feels incredibly unfair on my end, and I don't like the way they put me down/spoke to me. Whilst it feels bad now, I will probably come to think I've dodged a bullet in the future.

I didn't include 4 modules. These were modules I had elected outside the core curriculum in my university.

 

[Pallatablelawyer]

Wow, that’s brave of you to share, I can only imagine how tough that must be.

This sounds strange though given they told you not to put it down at the open day - Were there a lot of grades you didn’t include?

Im now wondering if not including a career mgt module that’s on my transcript but shows grade unknown, N/A because I didn’t participate in it is necessary

 

[TCLA Community Assistant]

Im now wondering if not including a career mgt module that’s on my transcript but shows grade unknown, N/A because I didn’t participate in it is necessary

All modules should be included.

If they are on your transcript, include them and just explain they are not graded.

 

[cw]

Have you interviewed with them yet?

yeah in late Jan!

 

[M1999]

Just been disqualified from a US firm's application process post interview, whilst they were in the process of making me an offer. The grounds for disqualification were that my module grades I entered on the application form did not match my transcript. I didn’t falsify any information but didn’t include some optional modules. I did this as I received explicit advice on their open day from Grad Rec that ‘it is not necessary to put down modules that don’t count to your final classification’. I'd also note that I'm on track for a first class grade at university - so my grades wouldn't have held me back.

It’s a horrible feeling, to have something you’ve worked so hard for taken away. The grades I didn’t include weren’t bad (they were all 2.1+), I was just told it was not necessary to put them down. It's even worse being accused consistently by their grad rec of dishonesty and 'stealing someones place at interview', when I explained that I followed the advice they gave me.

Just some advice to people here, to ensure you avoid being in my situation:

1. Be aware of the policy of law firms to include all grades - I’m sure most people know this, but I was uncertain about this at the time I made my application, which is why I asked for clarification at the open day.
2. Be very wary of what grad rec say. Most of them are extremely friendly and informative. But it just takes one piece of bad advice to land you in my position.

Best of luck to everyone applying!

They disqualified you because you didn’t put down all of your module grades? How is that the same as they don’t match?

 

[M1999]

All modules should be included.

If they are on your transcript, include them and just explain they are not graded.

If I did a semester abroad, how would I write down my module grades if it’s just a pass on my transcript- would I say ‘pass’ for the semester abroad as a whole or write individual modules I did on the abroad and write pass for each individual one(even though it doesn’t say it on my transcript). Sorry if that’s confusing lol!

 

[Daniel Boden]

Just been disqualified from a US firm's application process post interview, whilst they were in the process of making me an offer. The grounds for disqualification were that my module grades I entered on the application form did not match my transcript. I didn’t falsify any information but didn’t include some optional modules. I did this as I received explicit advice on their open day from Grad Rec that ‘it is not necessary to put down modules that don’t count to your final classification’. I'd also note that I'm on track for a first class grade at university - so my grades wouldn't have held me back.

It’s a horrible feeling, to have something you’ve worked so hard for taken away. The grades I didn’t include weren’t bad (they were all 2.1+), I was just told it was not necessary to put them down. It's even worse being accused consistently by their grad rec of dishonesty and 'stealing someones place at interview', when I explained that I followed the advice they gave me.

Just some advice to people here, to ensure you avoid being in my situation:

1. Be aware of the policy of law firms to include all grades - I’m sure most people know this, but I was uncertain about this at the time I made my application, which is why I asked for clarification at the open day.
2. Be very wary of what grad rec say. Most of them are extremely friendly and informative. But it just takes one piece of bad advice to land you in my position.

Best of luck to everyone applying!

Literally at a loss for words...

That's absolutely brutal - I'm so sorry

I assume you tried to explain and offered to send them the complete list of modules?

It's not like you've done a Mike Ross and falsified an entire Harvard Law Degree...

 

[M&ALawyer]

Literally at a loss for words...

That's absolutely brutal - I'm so sorry

I assume you tried to explain and offered to send them the complete list of modules?

It's not like you've done a Mike Ross and falsified an entire Harvard Law Degree...

Thanks for your kindness.

Honestly I did everything I could. I offered the help of my university and tutor who were supportive of me. I spoke to them at depth about the advice and whom I received it from at the open day. I even tried to speak about the nature of the modules in that they weren’t actually part of my degree itself.

None of it was met with any welcome. I understand have their own official policy of ensuring consistency - but it does seem like they amplified it and added some unnecessary accusations. I’ve also been barred from ever applying again to that firm!