TCLA Vacation Scheme Applications Discussion Thread 2022-23

[daisy_yawn]

I don't know why people are finding this hard to get their head around? Maybe I should have clarified "overrepresentation in relation to their population" which is clearly what I meant. I also meant it in regard to intakes. But there is a higher intake of females and asian graduates. I also believe in the profession as a whole Asians are represented at a degree higher than their percentage of the population.

I saw a grand total of two Asian women on my vac scheme (both trainees) but maybe it's just that firm :')

 

[Stasis]

Well was it peer reviewed? Just because you wrote a paper on it doesn't make it true. I can't think of any firm where there is a statistically significant overrepresentation of women or minorities at trainee level - would love if you name dropped some

At trainee level? Yep women outnumber men in many large firms; drops off a cliff at partner though.

 

[sxw517]

I think discussing diversity on a forum, where it's hard to discern the meaning behind what someone is saying is a road to nowhere tbf... Should probably stick to applications and discussions surrounding apps

 

[CorpLawyer00]

I think discussing diversity on a forum, where it's hard to discern the meaning behind what someone is saying is a road to nowhere tbf... Should probably stick to applications and discussions surrounding apps

Yes, I regret that this escalated - I was just pointing out that the phrase "pale, male and stale" probably shouldn't be used and isn't necessarily that true.

 

[Adrian_S]

folks, folks, we don't need to get into an online debate about diversity. sorry, i brought it up. let's just try to be supportive and encourage each other - the application process is challenging enough. again, my apologies for the offhand remarks x

 

[NotLord Denning]

Hi noticed a lot of Ashurst PFOs today can I ask if this was after the AC or the app/test stage?

 

[law2022x]

I did not say that, I said it because I have done lots of research on the topic. Simply use legalcheek to look at the % of female associates.

It's because there are more female law graduates? There are a lot of female associates because there are more female law graduates - that's not disportionate, that's the exact opposite, it's proportionate. Wasn't able to find any statistics showing an overrepresentation of other minorities either.

 

[CorpLawyer00]

It's because there are more female law graduates? There are a lot of female associates because there are more female law graduates - that's not disportionate, that's the exact opposite, it's proportionate. Wasn't able to find any statistics showing an overrepresentation of other minorities either.

Correct, it may well be the fact that there are more female law grads, along with a multitude of other complex factors. It was simply a comment in regards to the profession and representation of the UK's population.

 

[lawapplicant]

yes there is, I wrote a paper on it last year. It is partnership level where there is less representation and a huge part of this is issues with retention.

Common CorpSmith W. You only need to do a LinkedIn search and attend open days and you can see for yourself.
White boys are the minority there.

 

[law2022x]

At trainee level? Yep women outnumber men in many large firms; drops off a cliff at partner though.

But is it an overrepresentation? That's the operative word here - I know women outnumber men but there are more female law graduates so if anything it's representative not overrepresentative.

 

[lawapplicant]

Yeah thats anecdotal. https://www.sra.org.uk/sra/equality-diversity/diversity-profession/diverse-legal-profession/ See some recent data here.

Asian females are literally the highest performing demographic. No way someone is really claiming they are a disadvantage demographic 💀

 

[Stasis]

But is it an overrepresentation? That's the operative word here - I know women outnumber men but there are more female law graduates so if anything it's representative not overrepresentative.

In terms of the general population? Yes.
Sorry I thought we were talking about the general population - that seemed like the comparator the other poster was going for.

 

[Nom]

Hi noticed a lot of Ashurst PFOs today can I ask if this was after the AC or the app/test stage?

After the online test I imagine; people should be getting invites to the AC seeing how they told me they can't invite me to the AC.

 

[mdoeslaw]

why is links taking so long to get back for a summer vac scheme 😭

 

[NotLord Denning]

After the online test I imagine; people should be getting invites to the AC seeing how they told me they can't invite me to the AC.

Ah fair. Nah I sat my AC a week ago so was just wondering if they started going the final cut or whether this was just the formalities

 

[Ghassen]

I am reposting this again. Please any insights.
What does it mean when a GR member views your linkedin profile after an AC ? Is it common for every candidature review or is it a good sign ?
Thanks.

 

[NotLord Denning]

why is links taking so long to get back for a summer vac scheme 😭

Have some bad news for you pal

 

[Nom]

Ah fair. Nah I sat my AC a week ago so was just wondering if they started going the final cut or whether this was just the formalities

This is my first time applying to all these firms; do they invite people to AC in batches?

 

[157gg]

yeah and ngl the comment "pale, male and stale" is a little offensive. Would not make a comment like this about other groups in regards to a diff profession.

There is also an overrepresentation of some minorities and women in a lot of firms.

lol point me to these firms pls…i can’t seem to find them

 

[CorpLawyer00]

But is it an overrepresentation? That's the operative word here - I know women outnumber men but there are more female law graduates so if anything it's representative not overrepresentative.

perhaps I should have specified this is what I meant in my original comment. I simply mean overrepresentation compared to the general population. I think if you start getting into this then you would have to control for an innumerable number of factors that would be impossibly hard to calculate. i.e grades, university attended etc