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TCLA Direct Training Contract Applications Discussion Thread 2021-22 (#1)

KamKA

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Anyone know how long Slaughter and May take to get back to you after an AC?

I submitted my application 2 weeks ago and still haven't heard back! How long did you have to wait post-app to get an AC invitation?

On a side note, anyone else applying to Clifford Chance? I struggled with the personal statement last year and probably came off a bit boring - it's 600 words and given the instructions, I'm assuming they don't really want you to talk about work or academics since those are covered off elsewhere in the form :

You have told us about your academic achievements and work experience and now, in no more than 600 words, we are keen to hear more about you. This should include your extra-curricular activities, positions of responsibility and an achievement of importance which you are most proud of.

Am not quite sure how to approach this as a more mature candidate, given that quite a few of my interesting experiences / achievements are work-related? Is it alright to discuss work-related things but angle it more from a personal perspective of what the challenges were and what I learned? I do also have some volunteering stuff to talk about, e.g. founding the women's network at my previous company, but don't think I could fill 600 words with just that.
 

AspiringSol

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Does anyone have experience with navigating Clifford Chance’s mitigating circumstances policy? They ask for proof from a third party within 24 hours of their contacting them which might be quite awkward (I’m out of university and my doctors aren’t that great at responding so quickly)
 

Jessica Booker

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Does anyone have experience with navigating Clifford Chance’s mitigating circumstances policy? They ask for proof from a third party within 24 hours of their contacting them which might be quite awkward (I’m out of university and my doctors aren’t that great at responding so quickly)
Have you got any documentation from your doctors/university that you could submit within that 24 hour period?
 

Jessica Booker

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I have documentation but from my understanding they wanted this from the actual third parties? But do you think it is possible for myself to submit the evidence (this would be a lot more ideal)?
If it is clearly from the third party (eg on head paper) I think this is fine. No one would be able to guarantee a reference from anyone within 24 hours (which seems super bizarre if that’s what they are really asking for).
 
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Iris best

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Just got rejected after an AC. I know it happens and I should get over it but I honestly just feel like I’m not good enough and can’t carry on. No matter how much work I put in... it doesn’t seem to be enough :(

I know I should see the move to AC as an improvement from last cycle but I don’t understand how people pick themselves up after getting SO close for an amazing firm. It feels almost more personal now
 

AspiringSol

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If it is clearly from the third party (eg on head paper) I think this is fine. No one would be able to guarantee a reference from anyone within 24 hours (which seems super bizarre if that’s what they are really asking for).
this is what the website states: “We'll take any mitigating circumstances relating to your academic record into consideration only if they've been submitted and approved by your exam board or relevant body. Please give full details in the relevant section at the end of the application form.
We'll also ask for proof in writing from your exam board and verification by a third party such as your doctor or tutor. This information will usually need to be returned within 24 hours of our request.”

Unfortunately, I do not think I have any exam board documentation from my university regarding mitigating circumstances? Do they want me to write to my university to obtain this? Also the grades I want to mitigate, I do not think I actually applied for mitigating circumstances at that time hence resulting the lower grades
 

Jessica Booker

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this is what the website states: “We'll take any mitigating circumstances relating to your academic record into consideration only if they've been submitted and approved by your exam board or relevant body. Please give full details in the relevant section at the end of the application form.
We'll also ask for proof in writing from your exam board and verification by a third party such as your doctor or tutor. This information will usually need to be returned within 24 hours of our request.”

Unfortunately, I do not think I have any exam board documentation from my university regarding mitigating circumstances? Do they want me to write to my university to obtain this? Also the grades I want to mitigate, I do not think I actually applied for mitigating circumstances at that time hence resulting the lower grades
The university is the exam board, but if they are not aware of the circumstances, they aren’t going to be able to provide anything even if they could meet the timescales.

Universities can’t apply mitigating circumstances retrospectively. It is why raising it with the university is so important at the time of the circumstances happening.
 
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Jessica Booker

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Hello @Jessica Booker , is it stupid to claim mitigating circumstances at CC without proof then? Will they have no effect then?
You can still claim them, it’s just the firm might not take them into consideration.

It’s odd language to use as some mitigating circumstances don’t impact your studies. Instead they can impact your ability to build out work experience or extra curriculars, and there would be no “exam board” to verify those circumstances.

They must have some flex on this policy - which to be frank sounds ridiculous and unrealistic even for those people who do have evidence.
 

KamKA

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Anyone know if it's worth applying directly for a TC at Hogan Lovells? I'm a bit confused because the grad rec staff at an event I attended today suggested it's better to do a VC if you can, since the direct TC spots are basically whatever's left over after they've chosen their VC students. But also the direct TC applications seem to be open from now until January for law grads, so would've thought that means they're assessing their direct TC applicants in parallel.