Challenge facing the firm at this current moment - Directly criticise the firm or be more generic?

I am currently working on this question: What do you understand to be the most significant challenge facing the firm at this current time? What has made you choose this challenge?

I have identified a few points which I think relevant to the question.

However I am very unsure if they want me to actually criticise the firm (but who am I to criticise their business strategy) or do they want me to talk about more a general challenge?

Also I have identified a few challenges which I think big international firms face, however find it difficult to actually apply it to the particular law firm I'm applying to (for example: I don't know if they have hourly rates or offer 'package' prices).

Useful links and resources

I know @Coralin96 is busy this month so I'll create this thread for anyone to share links/summaries of commercial awareness topics for October.

This one is from Legal Week: https://www.law.com/legal-week/2018...lummets-as-brexit-effect-begins-to-take-hold/ (paywall).

Key takeaways:
  • According to Mergermarket, UK M&A fell by a third during the third quarter (Q3) of 2018.
  • The volume of deals fell by 32% compared to Q2.
  • The value of UK deals fell by 66% compared to Q2.
  • Suspected reasons: Businesses holding off investments for Brexit/few desirable UK assets.
  • It can't just be the UK though as global deal values fell by 40% compared to Q2.
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Weil, Gotshal & Manges Vacation Scheme Application Questions

Hi guys,

Having just seen that Weil has opened their Vacation Scheme applications, I thought I'd start a thread to collate people's responses to their questions.

Their form seems fairly straightforward with no cover letter but these three questions.

1. Please explain why you have decided to pursue a career as a commercial solicitor and why you have chosen Weil. (300 words) [Fairly straightforward - I imagine mentioning their strengths in private equity, big clients e.g. Advent International and Goldman Sachs, recent deals, low trainee intake so large responsibility not a cog in the wheel etc. are things to mention here]

2. Please mention anything further which you think is relevant to your application. (300 words) [I imagine any ECs and positions of responsibility is fine here?]

3. Please note any specific questions you would like answered at interview. (300 words) [I've never seen in this in an online application before - is it a trick questions? What sort of things would you say?]

Thanks guys - look forward to reading your responses below.

Daniel

how to make the most of law fairs?

So there's a law fair at Bristol Uni today and tomorrow, and I'm sure there are more to come at other universities. It really depends on the people I speak to at the fair, but the answers I receive are only helpful half of the time. For example, I tend to ask the trainees specifically what attracted them to the firm when they were applying, and now that they are working in the firm, if they could tell me something (let it be nature of the work they undertakes, opportunities, cultures etc) that exceed their expectations. Answers I got from them are usually quite generic. Most common replies were 'I like the people I work with!'.

I understand they are being honest, and I could potentially say at interview I speak to this person at the law fair who told me about the truly collegiate work environment at the firm. But it does seem a little pretentious as I have not yet worked at the firm so very hard for me to say that it is mainly the people that attracted me there.

Would really appreciate any tip on how to make the most of law fairs! suggestions on what questions to ask to obtain insightful info. that you wouldn't normally be able to find in internet would be very helpful as well. Thanks guys!

Pros and Cons of a Sector-based Approach

More and more firms are heading towards a sector-based strategy. When I was in an Osborne Clarke interview, this was something they particularly emphasised. I have observed that this is also something Burges Salmon is beginning to display in their strategy. So I think it would be helpful to discuss and share your thoughts about the pros and cons of a sector-based approach. Comment below!
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Discouraged

Here's some background, I graduated from Cardiff Uni with a low 2:1, my module marks have a mixture of 2:2 and 2:1, and went on to do my LLM in UoB. My A-Levels were pretty mediocre with an ABBB (doing four subjects actually saved me from a few applications because firms often want AAB) However, when it comes to applying to firms like Allen & Overy and Slaughter & May, which have a reputation of hiring trainees from Oxbridge or 1st class students from Russell Group unis with immaculate A-Levels results, I feel discouraged and wonder if there is much point in applying when I can focus my efforts on other firms.

Can anyone advise me if I should go on with my A&O / S&M application or my chances are still pretty high on gaining a vacation scheme spot with them?

Vacation Scheme Application Advice

Hi all,

I have come across several exceptional vacation scheme applications during my recent reviews. I have asked these students to share their advice on applications in this thread, so you can learn how they developed their application technique.

If anyone else wants to share any application tips, please feel free to post here also.

Thanks,

Jaysen

Why Law?

This is an honest question, I want to know what led you to this path and why you want to pursue law. I often find it interesting to hear people from different paths (especially GDL students) and interests that have ended up in the same destination as I am. I have met several people with crazy stories such as being interested in Medicine then Medical Law and they went on to do Masters and a GDL and eventually, Law.

So, let's have a discussion! Why do you want to do law?

commercial awareness application question

I noticed there are 2 main types of commercial awareness questions:

1) tell us about a topic/ commercial news story you've been following and explain why it interests you
2) tell us about a topic/ commercial news story that interests you and explain how it would affect our firm

I'm wondering with respect to type (1) question, must I select a commercial story related to the firm I'm applying to and mention briefly how it would affect that firm anyway, even though they did not ask for such explanation in the question. Would this add value to my answer or weight against me as the person who screens my application may think I did not read the question carefully and answer something they did not ask for.

Really appreciate your help guys!
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Debevoise & Plimpton

I was just wondering, could you please be able to give an me idea what this question means;

'Please tell us about a recent commercial deal that has captured your interest. If you could represent a side, which would it be and why?'
Its from the application form for Debevoise & Plimpton.

Also, 'Please tell us something that not many people know about you?' is this a trick question?


Thank you,
Chido

Commercial awareness resources: collated list of pros and cons

Hi guys,

I’ve noticed there have been a lot of sharing between the members on helpful commercial awareness resources. But it took me a long time to find out about them – I had to access thread titles that seems relevant and scroll through all the comments. I thought other people may also face similar problem so I collated a list of resources here, detailing the pros and cons (based on my personal experience and what I’ve gathered from TCLA members’ discussion) so you can make an informed choice of which source to go for. As some people have already advised, trying to read all of these can be extremely overwhelming!


Email subscriptions:


· Finimize (my personal favourite!)

o Pros: FREE daily emails (except for Sunday) of prominent financial/business deals and events, short yet fairly insightful read (3-4 minutes), serve as perfect starting point for further research. Finimize glossary page also gives simple, easy-to-understand definition of financial/business jargons - https://www.finimize.com/wp/glossary/

o Cons: quite short, requires further research to really understand all the issues

· Bright Network Commercial Awareness Updates:

o Pros: FREE, thorough and comprehensive summaries of key financial/business events (about 3-4 stories each update), weekly publication so focuses on macro events/deals that has wide industrial/market impact à Finimize is better if you wish to keep up-to-date with micro business events, suggest questions you should ask yourself at the end of each summary which you can try to answer to test how well you understand the issues

o Cons: relatively short, you have to create an account with Bright Network, check your spam inbox as sometimes the updates just go there

· Lexology:

o Pros: FREE, collection of law firm’s published insights of new case law and legislative developments, you can select the sectors and practice areas you prefer to receive updates on

o Cons: often discuss very technical legislative/ procedural issues so you have to do extra research on the background in order to understand the materials thoroughly

News outlet:

· BBC, The Guardian, Business Insider

o Pros: convenient everyday go-to for news updates, easy-to-understand, some people find it useful to read these sources for background then move onto The FT for more technical stuffs

o Cons: broadcast general news, state and explain the facts more than providing analysis, should use in combination of The FT and/ or the Economist

· The Economist:

o Pros: my all-time favourite magazine, weekly cover of all prominent political, social and economics events, easy-to-understand, very insightful, articles are categorised by world regions so you can select which to focus on, their special reports are amazing as they usually cover prominent industrial trends that gives you well-rounded information on the covered topics, gives a lot of opinions but be careful as you may very well treat them as facts! (I always have to remind myself to be critical when reading The Economist)

o Cons: Paid subscription required, otherwise you can only access up to 3 articles every week, but I think the £12 for 12 weeks deal first-time subscription for students are quite good. After that it’s £53 every 3 months (I think it‘s really worth the money!)

· The FT:

o Pros: daily coverage of all important financial and business news (it’s in the name isn’t it), contains insightful expert analysis and opinions, seriously the best resources that everyone should familiarise to in order to bolster commercial awareness. I've gatehred that some TCLA members have found the FT Due Diligence Newsletter quite helpful but they are limitted to Premium Subscription

o Cons: very technical, can be hard to understand initially but it’ll get better once you grow more accustomed to it. Best advice I can give is to pick and force yourself to read 3-4 FT articles everyday and use BBC for background info, and increase the number of articles as it starts to make better sense to you!

· The Principle:

o Pros: catered-to-student legal updates so very easy to understand

o Cons: focus specifically on legal rather than business news, published monthly so not a go-to for frequent updates, you have to subscribe to Allaboutlaw.com as they are the publisher of this newspaper

· Forbes magazine:

o Pros: I love Forbes magazines because they feature articles and discussions on trendy commercial, technology and social issues, but from rather original perspectives. Not only good to bolster commercial awareness but your general knowledge too!

o Cons: provides analysis rather than news coverage, discuss interesting but sometimes irrelevant topics to your commercial awareness interests

Websites

· Law Gazette, The Lawyer, Lawyer2b, Legal Week

o Pros: all good resources for updates on newest legal developments and law firms’ news

o Cons: the level of technicalities of these sources (with the exception of Lawyer2b) sometimes make me feel like they are more useful for qualified lawyers and partner levels rather than law students wishing to become trainees; The Lawyer require very expensive subscription lawyer2b is free and but updates are too infrequent in my opinion.

· For Legal tech: Legal Geek and Legaltech

o Pros: keep you updated on all latest legal tech trends

o Cons: can be quite difficult to understand especially when you do not have a tech background

Books:

· All You Need to Know About Commercial Awareness by Christopher Stoakes: very thorough, comprehensive introduction, the author puts commercial awareness into perspectives, which really helps me to start thinking about how this skill comes in to help solicitors add values to their client works. I recommend this book over Christopher’s first edition All You Need to Know About the City which to me is more of a technical guide to the Finance and Banking practice area.

I hope this help! And please feel free to add to the list guys! I’ll appreciate sharing of helpful podcasts (this is the one source I have yet tried out, would be helpful to play it while cooking or bathing)

First Year Open Days/Schemes - A list?

Good morning all,

Having seen the great work that has been done on compiling the Winter Vacation Scheme list, I was wondering: Is there a First Year Open Day/Scheme equivalent? If not, I do not mind starting one. I have a list from some previous research that I had drawn up but it lacks the opening dates as it would seem that none have been announced yet.

I just wanted to check one had not been created already!

Thanks
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NAFTA's Affect on Law Firms

Hello all,

Waking up to the new NAFTA deal, I was wondering if anyone could provide a quick insight into what the immediate/long-term consequences will be for US Law firms and beyond.

I will be looking into it today as more news develops, but if anyone has any immediate reactions, it would be helpful to post it here.

Thank you.
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Feeling such a wreck

Officially started the GDL today and I have to say, I'm feeling do deflated.
we had prep to do for the workshops today and i was up until 5am today making sure everything was done. got to WS and it seemed the people who said they haven't done it are the ones who were so much more understanding of what was going on and bale to answer questions.

Public law is not at all something I am feeling confident with so if anyone is really willing to help, i'd very much appreciate the support?

thanks for reading my rant, any advice would be much appreciated

Deferrals

This is pretty ambitious and probably pretty irrelevant, but I am toying with the idea of applying for a masters should I have the opportunity. Is it possible to still apply for a training contract and have one lined up, and if I decide to do a masters (provided I am accepted) be able to defer it? Or do you have to defer it when applying?

Any help would be very much appreciated! Particularly with regards to what people know regarding different firms.

In need for video interview advice!

Hi everyone,

I'm not sure if everyone is familiar with video interview as this is a relatively new method of recruitment. So I will give a brief explanation of what it invovles before proceeding to expressing my concerns.

Whenever I speak to someone about video interview, most people mistake it for Skype interview where you speak to recruiter through video call. The type of video interview I'm talking about is the self-recording one. You'll be signing into a web portal with brief introduction about the firm and the interview you're going to take. The interview question will pop up on the screen and you'll be given a few minutes to prepare your answer (in my experience this may range from 30 seconds to 2 minutes). As soon as your preparation time runs out (there is a time bar that you'll have to keep an eye on), the camera will start rolling and you'll have to record your answer. There is a limitted recording time so you have to take notice of the time bar and make sure you wrap up your answer before it runs out. Average time I had been given to record answers was from 1 - 2 minutes). Most video interview I'd done do not give you a second retake, you have one shot to give the best recording of yourself answering the interview questions!

For myself, I'm not a fan of video interview. I'm very uncomfortable with looking at and speaking to myself in the camera. I often got distracted from answering the question as I had to keep eyes out on the time bar. I also started to freak out when time was about to run out when I was no where close to finishing my answers (2 minutes is very short time allowance in my opinion). I also had problem with making eye contacts with the recruiter (the tip is you have to look straight into the camera instead of your own recorded image). But I found it quite difficult to remain engaging while having to check the remaining time, and on top of that, trying to pull off a great interview asnwer!

But as more and more firm are adopting this method of interview to screen candidates to invite to AC, I know this is something I cannot avoid and I must get better. I've done 2 video interviews with Eversheds Sutherland (my other video interview experiences that I accumulate to write this thread were with consultancy firms), one for vac scheme and one for TC, and I failed both times. I would really really appreciate any tip, advice or sharing of expereinces on how to nail this sort of interview.

Thanks so much guys! Looking forward to your responses!

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Vacation Scheme Application Advice - Enter your competition responses here!

Per @Jaysen 's request, I have decided to start a thread on offering advice to all prospective vac schemers on how to write a strong application. This is my approach to writing a strong application. There are several different categorisations of questions in these applications, and I will write down my approach accordingly.

1. Commercial Questions:
- Avoid very general topics (This is why I avoided general Brexit discussions), because general topics mean a lack of personalisation for the firm you are applying to, and also mean there is a very large scope of research to be done. The more general it is, the more things you need to cover. And often, it is not rewarding because this general topic does not even tailor to the firm you are applying to. (For instance, why focus on Brexit when you can focus on China's trade policies if the firm you are applying to has a strong presence in China?)

- Research thoroughly but don't research without a purpose. What is the purpose of bringing this topic up? Always link it back to the firm and how it impacts the firms and its clients. Why should the firm care about this?

- Don't only state facts, show your thinking process and demonstrate your critical thinking on this issue. In my opinion, commercial questions are the best way to demonstrate to the firm how interested you are in their firm.

2. Why This Firm?:
-I view this as analogous as courting a guy/girl, you want to show certain values that impress them, knowing their favourite food/colour/music etc. It is easy to state facts but difficult to show how you care about their interests. Back to the guy-girl scenario, it is great to show that you know they like jazz but how do you impress them or let them know your interests are aligned? This applies to the firms you apply to too.

- Research thoroughly, and don't select information that is too old. You need to be updated and understand the current "trend" of the firm. Did it just undergo a merger? Is the industry it is working in trouble because of new regulations?

3. Why Law?:
- Understand that you are competing with so many candidates who have gone through the same academic path as you. This question is an opportunity for you to set yourself apart from other candidates. This is the same reason why I rarely mention my academic achievements in law is why I become interested in law.

- Use your work experience to show how they cement your opinion on a career in Law.

- Think outside of yourself, what is it that lawyers are doing now that interest you?

3. Competency Questions:
- Use the STAR approach to structure your answers

-Quantify your results

- Have a few stories in the bag for both applications and interviews

-Really think hard about what you have done and never EVER diminish your accomplishments. People are often their harshest judges, don't undersell yourself. Think of every little impact you have made and work you have undertaken which made you a valuable member of the team.

4. Situational Judgment Questions:
- This is rare, but they still exist in applications. Imagine yourself as a trainee and don't make sweeping remarks such as " I will make time for this task" -- How do you make time? What concrete steps are you going to take?

- Always ask for help and run things by your supervisor! Speaking to a few friends who have been trainees, this is often the best solution to things instead of taking the responsibility and burden of a whole task alone.


These are all the questions I can think of. Leave comments below or message me and I will help you as much as I can! I would also like to hear some ideas from all of you and expand more questions or points I have missed out.

All the best in your applications!

'Tell us about you' questions

Hi everyone,

Sorry for making yet another thread in such a short period of time!

I've recently come across several questions that ask the candidate to tell the firm about their achievements, extracurriculars, and so on. However, quite a few of them are phrased in the following way:

"In 300 words, we are keen to hear more about you and the extra curricular activities you have been involved in." (this is for the CC Open Day)

My question is this: should I simply set out my extracurriculars, achievements, etc., or does the firm want to know about me me? So, for example, about my more personal extracurriculars (playing football once a week), or about my background ("I grew up in X and moved to Y when I was 14").

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